GP style shift reverse shift pattern?

**rapid van cleef** · 14th December 2012, 10:15

Do many of you track day guys/ racers use reverse gear shift pattern? Im considering doing it to my bike as I dont ride on the road anymore and find upshifting out of left handers a pain in the arse with standard shifting.

thanks

**Hoon** · 14th December 2012, 10:43

Do it. I did it to all my race bikes and road bikes even still after not racing for a few years now. Even my mates that ride my bikes prefer it after they try it.

**DEATH_INC.** · 14th December 2012, 10:57

Yep...takes a little getting used to but once you are on the track at least you won't go back.
I still run normal, but that's coz I struggled with it and brain fade on the road....

**sidecar bob** · 14th December 2012, 11:16

I raced a TR750 with the gears race pattern on the wrong side, I was 3 secs a lap faster after it was fixed up to what I was accustomed to.
Although putting the gears on the correct side was most of the issue.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 14th December 2012, 11:16

Best thing you can do for track usage.

**Dave-** · 14th December 2012, 16:56

yup!

definitely recommend it.

**Deano** · 14th December 2012, 18:47

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Best thing you can do for track usage.

Fuck yeah!

Makes upshifts more positive and quicker, plus its easier to shift up out of left hand corners cause you can't get your foot under the lever in normal pattern.

I was going to convert my road bike to race pattern as well, but needed custom rear sets for an 05 CBR1000RR and they were fucken expensive - I have found that I can actually convince my brain of the diffeence between road and track and usually don't confuse the two....although once on the track, I was so exhausted/elated after crossing the finish line that I shifted down when trying to slow down instead of up and nearly ran off.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 14th December 2012, 19:16

Originally Posted by Deano

Fuck yeah!

Makes upshifts more positive and quicker, plus its easier to shift up out of left hand corners cause you can't get your foot under the lever in normal pattern.

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Hell yes. And back shifting it doesn't matter if you're a tad slower anyway.

**Deano** · 14th December 2012, 19:18

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Hell yes. And back shifting it doesn't matter if you're a tad slower anyway.

Because you're usually upright and braking hard anyway eh?

**Crasherfromwayback** · 14th December 2012, 19:21

Originally Posted by Deano

Because you're usually upright and braking hard anyway eh?

That, and it's not quite as crucial as getting your upshifts spot on to save time in the drag to the next corner, where every split second can count.

So unless you're Mick Doohan, Anthony Gobert or Matt Mladin, I'd recommend it. Those freaks were that fast every where it mattered not a fuck which way the gear lever was set up! Pretty sure from memory they all ran street pattern.

**300weatherby** · 14th December 2012, 20:37

Hate it! I ride in the real world and race, either both race or both road shift,I prefer road. If you feel you need to be shifting while on the edge of your tyres and unable to get your toe in to shift because of that, look at your gearing instead, unbalancing a bike picking it up on the gas and shifting at the same time is daft.

When you are hard on the brakes and getting it to back a little to help with turn in, going down the box it is easier to maintain the other control skills in tandam, more important to me than upshifting tipped over.

The guys at the top have done it both ways since racing began, neither is right or wrong, but there are solutions to the perceived problems of road shift on the track

**Deano** · 14th December 2012, 21:27

Originally Posted by 300weatherby

Hate it! I ride in the real world and race, either both race or both road shift,I prefer road. If you feel you need to be shifting while on the edge of your tyres and unable to get your toe in to shift because of that, look at your gearing instead, unbalancing a bike picking it up on the gas and shifting at the same time is daft.

When you are hard on the brakes and getting it to back a little to help with turn in, going down the box it is easier to maintain the other control skills in tandam, more important to me than upshifting tipped over.

The guys at the top have done it both ways since racing began, neither is right or wrong, but there are solutions to the perceived problems of road shift on the track

LOL.

You can't gear a bike for every corner, at least not in production racing.

Shifting a bike up on the gas doesn't mean unbalancing it, or maybe it does for you?

What results have you obtained?

Who can you name at the very top prefer road pattern apart from a few aliens?

Most footage I see of MotoGP is with race shift. Happy to be proven wrong but I doubt it.

**codgyoleracer** · 14th December 2012, 22:01

Usefull on fuck off fast bikes, so so on small bikes. Road pattern has adavantages on small bikes going into turns at the track and aids smoothness on entry.