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    Quote Originally Posted by Grubber View Post
    still making assumptions on other peoples behalf i see, don't worry, you might find someone who is remotely interested in you eventually.
    oh the irony!

    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Nah. But The Zone is a lot like that state of mind I imagine the old Zen masters were describing.
    wonder if any zen masters ride? they could have double the zone then
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    Quote Originally Posted by beyond View Post
    Sounds like you nicked that line right out of a Kung Fu movie
    Maybe...he just went to see the Karate Kid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    No, I'm actually talking about inexperienced riders mistakenly thinking that they'll find The Zone by totally focusing on the road in front of them at the expense of giving due consideration to the multitude of other issues that need to be taken into account.

    And btw, each time I use the words 'The Zone' in a post it makes me want to puke just that little bit more. It sounds so totally ghey.
    Well get over the homo eroticism of it - some of us are comfortable in our own skin - or are at least enthusuiastic enough about it to get past the fact that it may be ghey.. Call it the "concentration state" if you want something less ghey...

    I appreciate what you are saying, thnking that you have it all under control when you may not be thinking about something. but when I refer to the concentration state, it si more about the state of extreme absorbtion in your concentration, rather than the specifics of what you are fociussing on. Clearly the more experienced that you are, the more you will know to focus on.

    Kind of like a golfer,starts off not even knowing what isaffecting their swing, but if they can get their ficus working, they can do those well. Over time, they add awareness of more things to focus on, and manage to control focus on all simultaneously.

    Out of interest, what sort of other stuff in the line of "multitude of other issues" would you be talking about? Thsi would be useful and good for safety. I try to be aware of everything from
    - braking/transition technique
    - surroundings,
    - road surface awarenes (disrepair, elevation, camber and radius changes),
    - other road users,
    - lighting,
    - body positioning,
    - speed,
    - weather,
    - bike/tyre/grip awareness

    got any others? then I can start trying to be aware of those too.
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    It could be that I have one years experience repeated 33 times!

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    Crap on the road, or a cone (for eg) may mean there is loose stock ahead.

    This time of year, sunstrike and deep shadow hiding damp/moss is a real concern
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Crap on the road, or a cone (for eg) may mean there is loose stock ahead.

    This time of year, sunstrike and deep shadow hiding damp/moss is a real concern

    gee I'm a bit worried about you now.....have you got some damp moss between your ears?

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    There are some who'd say so...
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by R-Soul View Post

    got any others? then I can start trying to be aware of those too.
    Things you can't see.

    What might be around the corner?
    What might be lurking in that long grass beside the road?
    What might that vehicle parked on the roadside be hiding?

    Those sorts of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Things you can't see.

    What might be around the corner?
    What might be lurking in that long grass beside the road?
    What might that vehicle parked on the roadside be hiding?

    Those sorts of things.
    Asteroids crashing into the earth.
    Zombie Apocalypse
    Financial Crisis
    Nuclear war
    Famine
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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    Asteroids crashing into the earth.
    Zombie Apocalypse
    Financial Crisis
    Nuclear war
    Famine

    Don't encourage him. Seriously. He is that ridiculous.

    Why don't deluded idiots who feel that they know what is best for everyone else, just mind their own f*cking business.

    How would they like it if other people started interfering in their family and business lives on a daily basis by telling them how to raise their kids and run their businesses the politically correct way (when neither the business or family desire or see a need for it). The answer is that they wouldn't like it a bit, but they are so hypocritical that they can't see how unacceptable their ideas are to others. Personally I see there meddlesome attitudes as being the highest form of arrogance. IMO the world could do without them.
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    FFS. How hard is it to understand? We all know that motorcycling is dangerous. That can be, and is, part of it's appeal. However...
    It is up to riders to manage those risks well enough that the ultimate dangers are minimised. It is now more than apparent that TPTB are making moves to manage those risks on our behalf, because we won't. The measures 'they' take will not be popular with bikers./
    The message is "Manage yourself or we will."
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    FFS. How hard is it to understand? We all know that motorcycling is dangerous. That can be, and is, part of it's appeal. However...
    It is up to riders to manage those risks well enough that the ultimate dangers are minimised. It is now more than apparent that TPTB are making moves to manage those risks on our behalf, because we won't. The measures 'they' take will not be popular with bikers./
    The message is "Manage yourself or we will."
    Beautiful bit of scaremongering. You don't have any proof of that do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    FFS. How hard is it to understand? We all know that motorcycling is dangerous. That can be, and is, part of it's appeal. However...
    It is up to riders to manage those risks well enough that the ultimate dangers are minimised. It is now more than apparent that TPTB are making moves to manage those risks on our behalf, because we won't. The measures 'they' take will not be popular with bikers./
    The message is "Manage yourself or we will."
    and here it is written in PLAIN ENGLISH!!!!

    How come no-one understands this....how come there are so many think-headed numbskulls out there making up excuses all the time..ffs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genie View Post
    and here it is written in PLAIN ENGLISH!!!!

    How come no-one understands this....how come there are so many think-headed numbskulls out there making up excuses all the time..ffs!
    Someone said it so it must be true. How sheeplike
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    Getting off topic for this thread...I blame the ostriches.*






    * a creature whose eye is bigger than it's brain, meaning it sees everything and understands none of it
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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