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    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post
    What I mean is, every time I have tried to build something I have just about given up in despair because of the amount of red tape that suddenly appears AND the amount of money required to make that tape disappear...28 gazillion stupid regulations, inspections, applications, fees etc etc etc to be complied with...nothing about clonking your head though...
    The Nats are gonna slash a lot of that tape and replace it with more
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    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post
    What I mean is, every time I have tried to build something I have just about given up in despair because of the amount of red tape that suddenly appears AND the amount of money required to make that tape disappear...28 gazillion stupid regulations, inspections, applications, fees etc etc etc to be complied with...nothing about clonking your head though...
    Couldn't agree more.

    But a metal plate head-height on a swinging door at a workplace that deals with sick people (including those with head injuries????)

    kind'a funny really....

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    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post
    What I mean is, every time I have tried to build something I have just about given up in despair because of the amount of red tape that suddenly appears AND the amount of money required to make that tape disappear...28 gazillion stupid regulations, inspections, applications, fees etc etc etc to be complied with...nothing about clonking your head though...
    Yes mate I know exactly what you mean.
    I spent several years designing new housing estates in 3 States. Cyclone regs in Qld to roof pitches for snow in Tassie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    Couldn't agree more.

    But a metal plate head-height on a swinging door at a workplace that deals with sick people (including those with head injuries????)

    kind'a funny really....
    summat to do with "tall poppy syndrome"..?
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    It sounds like we are confusing Building Regulations with Heath and Safety Standards.

    NZ Health & Safety = Phone ACC if you hurt yourself.

    NZ's Heath and Safety standards must be the worst of any developed country in the world.

    Those poor buggers who were killed yesterday when the house they were moving collapsed on their heads Are testement to this unfortunate fact.

    It could not have happened anywhere else in the developed world as they have methods and safety standards.

    Those poor Aussies who were hit when an ice shelf hit them on the head. Again, this couldn't have happened else where. Saying "Didn't they read the sign?" would not stop a multi-million dollar law suit.

    If you don't know any better, then it is all just fine..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    It sounds like we are confusing Building Regulations with Heath and Safety Standards.
    They should be the same really?

    And yes. agree that tragedy yesterday was far more grievous than the unfortunate celebrities. poor buggers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    It sounds like we are confusing Building Regulations with Heath and Safety Standards.

    NZ Health & Safety = Phone ACC if you hurt yourself.

    NZ's Heath and Safety standards must be the worst of any developed country in the world.

    Those poor buggers who were killed yesterday when the house they were moving collapsed on their heads Are testement to this unfortunate fact.

    It could not have happened anywhere else in the developed world as they have methods and safety standards.

    Those poor Aussies who were hit when an ice shelf hit them on the head. Again, this couldn't have happened else where. Saying "Didn't they read the sign?" would not stop a multi-million dollar law suit.

    If you don't know any better, then it is all just fine..........
    the house was knocked of its temporary foundations by a large digger which appeared to have collapsed the bank it was working on.

    Something is wrong with that door...I dont think any door would be 30 cm (thats a foot in old terms) lower than the normal 1980 mm

    Untreated timber was not the problem but really leaky buildings.We have been building with untreated timber for years.It was poor design and poor practise(no window flashings,butt jointing 7mm sheets with no rear flashing,no contract supervision,decks built flush with floors with no means of drainage...
    Treated timber would not of solved the problem,just transferred it to other surfaces.It would have made repairs cheaper tho(as long as it wasnt left to long)The timber treatment typically used in timber framing would still allow timber(when wet for LONG periods of time to rot).The other part of the problem was the lack of ventilation to dry the whole thing out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWST? View Post
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    Untreated timber was not the problem but really leaky buildings.We have been building with untreated timber for years.It was poor design and poor practise(no window flashings,butt jointing 7mm sheets with no rear flashing,no contract supervision,decks built flush with floors with no means of drainage...
    In contravention of the building code?

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    For around half a century (ever since they stopped using heart totara for framing) EVERYBODY who ever picked up a hammer knew you didn't use untreated pinus radiata for permanent work.

    Then some brain dead rooster in Wellington comes out and says "Oh, it's OK, all good to use untreated". Completely coincidental that a certain huge corporation made millions as a result of that decision of course. And EVERYBODY who ever picked up a hammer knew that it would inevitably end in tears. Just a matter of time. The chippies building those houses with untreated knew they would rot. Not their decision, and nobody would listen to them

    Every wooden framed house ever built leaks. Sooner or later. Timber needs to be rot resistant for as long as it take to dry out. Pretending that you can use untreated pinus and seal the building so tight that it never leaks is just bullshit.

    Got a leaky house? Blame an unholy alliance between that certain corporation and the Greens.

    And I am sure the door would not have been 30cm lower than standard. You'd have to be a dwarf to get through it. Maybe 3 cm , 30mm ?
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    Here is a photo of the incident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    Was at a public sector premises and smacked myself in the head when opening a door that had a metal plate extruding at head height.
    I have an idea....how about you watch where your going...using your eyes...and take responsibility for your own actions?? and when you stuff up...don't blame someone else...LEARN from it!!

    Just like riding a bike??? wadddya fink?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    The main part of the letter I recieved:

    Due to structural issues the door is 30 cm lower than standard doors. In addition the security lock is attached to the side of the door instead of the top of the door which is usual practice. We are sorry that you sustained a knock to the head.

    Whats your address??? I have a huge bag of cotton wool to send you and a whole king size roll of bubble wrap!
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    All you can do is ask to fill out an incident report, This goes into their permanent file and they are obligated to consider it a hazard and to analyse the risk of another such incident. if in the future someone gets hurt seriously* from the same hazard due to their in-action then they get kicked in the pocket.

    You can ring OSH and tell them whacked your head if you like, But they don't have the resources to look into such a minor incident, Nor could they do much apart from perhaps ask for a sign to be put on the door way alerting people to the hazard.

    *You may want to look up the current definition of serious harm and see if your injury qualifies, In which case the organisation is obligated by law to notify OSH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos View Post
    I have an idea....how about you watch where your going...using your eyes...and take responsibility for your own actions?? and when you stuff up...don't blame someone else...LEARN from it!!

    Just like riding a bike??? wadddya fink?
    my balance atttention and depth perception are fucked after an accident. Hopefully temporarily, but is why i was visiting said place. Read my other posts, I normally wouldn't worry etc etc but I want to stir them up for a number of reasons.

    And no I'm not riding at the moment because of it.

    But the bubble wrap might keep me entertained while sitting home on a saturday.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post

    Those poor buggers who were killed yesterday when the house they were moving collapsed on their heads Are testement to this unfortunate fact.

    It could not have happened anywhere else in the developed world as they have methods and safety standards.
    They would have reduced the risk and perhaps saved there own lives if they had followed their obligations under current OSH law and carried out hazard identification and management and ensured proper practise was followed, and that capable people were in the right positions, Like the fuckin retard in the digger.

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