pukekohe crash

**Kickaha** · 27th March 2005, 18:23

Originally Posted by gav

Being an expeienced Alpinestars sponsered racer I thought you'd know that most racers think its unlucky to race in brand new leathers, you're always more likely to crash, just superstition, I guess.

I've seen guys scratching brand new helmets on the ground for the same reason
superstitious rubbish

**SPman** · 27th March 2005, 18:24

Feint could put it up or try http://www.sync.co.nz/ming/page_01.htm - I think it might be in there

**onearmedbandit** · 27th March 2005, 18:30

Originally Posted by SPman

Talked to Feint today and he's still happy for the thread to stay deleted.

There was an off yesterday resulting in moderately serious injury. Something Frosty purportedly said may have been taken out of context and recriminations starting flowing.

All I want to know is - why was there a bolt in the Armco, with the fucking threaded end sticking out like a can opening, flesh opening spike!!!

Well whoever it is, I hope you get well soon. As for a bolt sticking out of the armco in the fashion you described, someone needs to have their arse kicked.

**WINJA** · 27th March 2005, 19:40

Originally Posted by andy1

Just someone on here thinks about themselve toooooo much...

I just wanna know what this means "He's got brand new leathers and should get towed behind a truck" ??

THATS RIGHT DUDE, A POST THAT IS STARTED SHOULD RUN ITS COURSE

**Firefight** · 27th March 2005, 19:42

I stopped into Middlemore this afternoon after work to check on Gary..

He was still sedated, but I was able to chat with him for a few minutes.

he was very sore, bruised and cut about the face, and has had major surgery on his right leg which was badly broken and cut up.

He can,t remember much about what happened. But recognised me, so thats a good sign.

I will be stopping into see him on the way to night shift tomorow night so will update again then, those of you who rang/txt me I have passed on your best wishes.

Firefight

**WINJA** · 27th March 2005, 19:54

Originally Posted by Firefight

I stopped into Middlemore this afternoon after work to check on Gary..

He was still sedated, but I was able to chat with him for a few minutes.

he was very sore, bruised and cut about the face, and has had major surgery on his right leg which was badly broken and cut up.

He can,t remember much about what happened. But recognised me, so thats a good sign.

I will be stopping into see him on the way to night shift tomorow night so will update again then, those of you who rang/txt me I have passed on your best wishes.

Firefight

I THINK I KNOW THIS GUY DID HE HAVE A CBR250? DID HE HANG OUT WITH A GUY CALLED ARTHUR?

**gav** · 27th March 2005, 22:00

Bones will mend, good luck, dude. But hows the bike???????

**riffer** · 27th March 2005, 22:26

Originally Posted by andy1

I just wanna know what this means "He's got brand new leathers and should get towed behind a truck" ??

It means you are a victim of chinese whispers. If you weren't there and haven't spoken to the people who made the comments then you have no right to talk about it.

Hope the rider hurt heals fast and learns a valuable lesson and that some of the people on this forum think a bit more before they go posting stuff they don't know anything about.

**FEINT** · 27th March 2005, 22:33

The post was origally posted for you all to state your best wishes in a speedy recovery. WHich would be printed out and handed to the poor fella in the hospital. However, it turned out that some of you had to pick a fight with some other members on that post. Now, how am I suppose to print it out and hand it to the guy in hospital?

I really couldn't give a toss what you heard or what he said or what your friend told you or what you think happened. I didn't post it for you to fight. If you have a personal vengeance of some sort, take it up with the person directly.

The maturity of the replies were shocking. I apologise to all those that had posted messages, and I am sorry that I can't pass those on to Gary.

Thank you SPMAN for deleting that post.

I am glad to hear that he is recovering.

**FROSTY:Me** · 28th March 2005, 00:21

Originally Posted by andy1

Never heard it... Guess im not up to date...

Andy -and anyone else that either heard what I said or heard it second or third hand.
The new leathers/new paint superstition has been around as long as I've been racing. (about 15 years) Maybee its a stupid superstition But I sure believe in it.
My comment was clearly taken completely out of context.
I suggested that perhaps he should have dragged his leathers down the road a bit -put a lil scuff on em.I may have said behind a car or truck but not with him in em .
I suspect that the bit where I said "OMG the poor sod with new bike and new leathers thats asking for trouble" wasnt heard
I also bet the comment --"thank gosh were close to middlemore"(the bone specialty hospital )was also missed>
Im so paranoid about it that I actually sanded a tiny section of mella yella's belly pan when I had it repainted.
I can understand the comment being taken wrong and im sorry that it was.

Now for the record - I gave a fellow kb er a lecture for not getting off the track fast enough.
I told gary (track manager) to order a ambulance with 2 staff in it.
I sent the track medic down the pit lane to get to the guy.
I was the dumb shit standing in the middle of the track waving the red flag to clear the track.
I wouldn't wish that kinda shit on anyone especially as he crashed 50m from where I destroyed my shoulder 10 years ago and in exactly the spot a freind of mine was killed.
I'm only happy -(if thats the right word) that it wasn't a lot worse
He could have possibly taken a couple of other guys with him or the damage to himself could have been irrepairable.
I must admit it upsets me to think you -(and as you have implied in a pm several others) would think I was such an heartless asshole who would wish bad things on another biker.
Read back on anything I have ever posted and see if Ive ever put down or wished harm on a fellow biker.
If you -or anybody else still has issue with me then please feel free to call me. 021544251

**bugjuice** · 28th March 2005, 00:26

Suney - check out http://www.sync.co.nz/ming/page_01.htm

as for the crash, was bad, I really hope Gary gets better soon. My bro is still going thru crap with his leg from an off at Chrimbo, so I really feel for him and his family. All the best to him.

As for what happened, I'm not going into detail, but he didn't take anyone with him fortunately, and I'm not aware that anything was on purpose, it was just a 'racing' accident, which was unfortunate. These things happen.

All the best to him.

**Ixion** · 28th March 2005, 01:14

The superstition about new clothing (eg driving gloves) and new paint has been around since at least the 1930's, in car racing circles at any rate

It was common practice to ensure that a new car , factory fresh, was fitted with a well battered panel from an old one, so that the vehicle would not be completely new.

Tazio Nuvolari was obsessional about not wearing new gloves in a race

**Motoracer** · 28th March 2005, 01:21

WINJA, he knows Arthur very well but he's not who you are thinking of.

F/F Thank you so much for the updates!

I will see to it that the people responsible for the track get a formal complaint letter from me about the dangerous bolt sticking out of the Armco.

Sensei, I accept your apology if you understand why it was so wrong to make that coment given the situation. Nothing wrong with my sense of humor I think. You might need to work on being a bit more sensitive though. Imagine how you'd feel if your Aussie mate called you a fucken Kiwi who can't drive, while having a few beers and a barbie in your back yard. Now compair that with some random Aussies calling you a fucken usless kiwi driver, while you were at the hospital, badly injured and your beautiful pride and joy was all smashed up AFTER you had a major crash. What if you weren't even in the wrong but people were pointing fingers just because of where you came from... even in a joke. Jokes are meant to create humor, not hurt people. There is a time and place for everything.