Soft & Squishy core Biker
Being fined under the building code apparently "unsafe use" - nothing to do with the race
One dentist who owns a house in King St (i.e. on racetrack) is going to fight the fine - his kids are "always up on the roof", and "are representative rock climbers".
Councils response:
- he was given free tickets to attend the track
- there were up to 8 kids sitting on an unsecured couch on his roof
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Forum whore
no loss to the council, it was a breech of the building code. BUT what it was is a deal with the promoter (who dont like it) and the council.............I would put money on that being the truth !Originally Posted by P38
Ive run out of fucks to give
Hardcore Biker
hmm..dont know about how the ticketing was done..but was it foreseeable enough that this kind of event would have encouraged people to watch the races from the rooftops?...id think so..if youre not offered a ticket..and tickets are all run out..so..wouldnt be possible that it was actually the councils fault or the promoters fault for indirectly encouraging this to happen?
Forum whore
"Sorry m'lud but I couldn't talk them back in off the roof. Watching V8's or watching the usual shite on telly...there was no contest. I'd have threatened them but I'm not allowed to smack my own kids anymore, never mind someone else's....plus there was a council guy filming me so I didn't want to get into any more trouble."
snot crasher
WTF?? good luck to them trying to enforce that 1, cant see how thay would have a legal leg to stand on. When the old nissan mobile was on in wellington all the office blocks along the track were jammed full of people, they even had to let anyone who worked in buildings in side the spectator fences in for free
Hardcore Biker
Your probally very close to the truth there Quasi
Was there some construction going on that required a council permit?
What part of the building code did they breech?
Unsafe acts are usually investigated by OHS not council, unfortunately OHS are not responsible for private residence. You can be as unsafe as you like in your own home.
The Magna Carter took care of that for us all.
Your home is your castle.
I'd call them just to prove that point alone, let alone the breech of privacy that occured when council staff photographed his childern without proper permission while they were on private property.
The dentist will win hands down every day of the week.
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Double shot!!
LMAO!! Yeah right. Just screw that piece of paper up and throw it in the bin. Stupid fucking council is even dumber than than the pigs.
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So how many of these residents will protest about the use of there street the nexttime they want to run the V8's? Not very smart at all, if the promoters were smart they'd ask the council to drop it!
"Some people are like clouds, once they fuck off, it's a great day!"
snot crasher
dosn't mater what the residents want, council has all the say, thats why the race left wellington for hamilton in the first place
The Sharif don't like it!
I'd sit on my roof with this cranking:
Fuck the cunts.
Up their council cunt twat face cunt holes
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Forum whore
half the student flats in Dunedin have couches on the roof, some of them arnt even burning
Forum whore
A Hamilton family and 10 others have each been fined $1500 for viewing the V8s from rooftops or makeshift stands.
But Hamilton City Council says it will keep a hard line on the alleged Building Act infringements to "send a strong message."
City dentist Ron White, who owns a house on the King St part of the Frankton circuit, is outraged at the instant fine, which was mailed to him last week.
"It's just unbelievable and I suppose it's typical of the council, they just think they are more important than the people."
The Waikato Times this year visited the two-storey 1920s house during the Hamilton 400 event, where Mr White's children and friends sat on the roof watching the cars speed by. They did the same in 2008 and received no fine.
"It's unprincipled, the whole thing. I just want them to drop us and leave it alone and let us get along with our lives," Mr White said.
"This is an attack on the citizens of the city, this is just rotten."
Mr White said he had taken legal advice about the $1500 infringement notice, which the council said must be paid by August 7.
In an ironic twist, Mr White wasn't even in town during the V8s as he is not a fan of them. He called the notice "a huge slap in the face".
He was adamant he wouldn't pay.
Heather White, Mr White's former wife, was in the house during the racing and said she felt like a prisoner in her own home. She said the council was "being over-zealous over nothing".
"We bent over backwards for the V8s. They blocked us in, we couldn't even move our cars for days. If anything I think they owe us money."
But the council's building control manager Phil Saunders said he and his staff went to great lengths before the V8s to warn people what they could and couldn't do under the Building Act.
He said staff did a letter drop and even walked the track and communicated with all business owners, tenants and homeowners to let them know the rules.
"Our role is the health and safety of people and we take that quite seriously. We gave everyone the information, but there were people who didn't listen."
Mr Saunders said council staff spotted the alleged infringements during the racing and even took photographic evidence.
He said staff reported children being up on roofs and even a couch in one case.
"These set-ups put people at risk, we don't have much choice. It's rather good luck than good judgment that something didn't happen.
"Someone could have easily fallen from one of those roofs."
Mr Saunders said eight notices were sent out for people being on roofs, while three others were for makeshift stands.
Ad Feedback He said a number of people around the circuit followed the rules and legally set up stands.
Hamilton 400 event promoter Dean Calvert said what people did in or on their own homes during the V8s "was not our responsibility".
However, Mr Calvert did have concerns about safety and the possibility of people in elevated areas throwing things like glass bottles on the track.
"We are kind of caught in the middle, because it reflects on us if something happens, even if it's outside the circuit."
Mrs White said citing safety issues was a "smokescreen" by the council and V8 organisers. "They're just annoyed that we got a free view, it's as simple as that."
The infringement notice cited a clause of the Building Act that refers to using or permitting the "use of a building for a use for which it is not safe".
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This makes my blood boil - bloody Councils treating people like the idiots they (The Council) are. What the hell next. We need to start a petition or major poll or chain e-mail or something and get this as a huge National debate - that'll be the way the Council will maybe see some perspective.
Its as bad as Dept of Labour Inspectors racing out at Easter to "bust" a shop open when it shouldn't be - bloody pathetic.
Phew.
Rant over (for now)
"If you haven't grown up by the time you turn 50, you don't have to!"
Forum whore
Well next time ya might just happen to be painting the roof that weekend, you will need a few mates to help, and some thirst quencher, ( bugger its beer). and it will take all weekend.
ArseBiscuit
Painting on the roof is safe enough. Just don't sit down - it's really dangerous.
Hardcore Biker
yeah and as a volunteer at the track i got a cap for my thanks oh and breakfast every morning, it cost me to work there and it galls me to think that they made oodles of money at the expense of volunteers, but then man was it an awesome experience and I guess thats why we do it, but to hit the members of public like that and like someone said if it was safety they should have been removed from the unsafe area immediately!.If someone had fallen and the council knew they were up there then they are, and can be, held equally responsible for anything that occurred as a result of falling from the roof.
Osh does this in the workplace , i would love to think they would charge there own bosses if something had happened.
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