Now you know how most firearm owners feel when confronted by people who want to ban their rifles because they don't 'look right'.Originally Posted by The Stranger
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Now you know how most firearm owners feel when confronted by people who want to ban their rifles because they don't 'look right'.
Forum whore
A lump of 4x2 can be used to harm someone as well. Banning that is just plain stupid - unless perhaps someone comes up with a cheap, effective workable alternative. So stop putting up silly exagerated examples.
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The knife is an accurate example. With declining firearm ownership in the UK, knife attacks became the norm and you are more likely to die from a stab wound than a bullet wound.
Forum whore
Name a cheap, effective workable alternative to a rifle for use in industry. You are the one who first mentioned nukes, so don't point at me for exagerating. And yea, jono, I'd rather take a 22 in the belly than a 12 inch kitchen knife
Forum whore
Where did that come from? Stop clutching at straws. I never mentioned looks, though I am sure most of the gun nuts get more pleasure looking at, fondling and oiling their guns than a hot chick.
Forum whore
The looks have a big part in it. People like you (actually, they're more reasonable) want to restrict even further certain guns because they look dangerous.
Forum whore
Go back a few posts - you will see I mentioned a clear need. Hey, where there is a need, there is a need, cool. Hell I got my gun license for a need, I could hardly begrudge a farmer having what is necessary for the execution of his work.
Forum whore
Oh well, I'm getting tired and you guys have run out of ideas and are as usual just resorting to silly inferences now, so it's time to split.
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It should be up to you to demonstrate a clear 'need' before saying we can't do something that were previously allowed.
1 death per 40 million people per year does not work out to infringing upon the rights of over 200,000 licensed gun owners within NZ.
L-Plate Rider
why did he go for a rifle - shit - pistols are easy enough to get hold of if you know the right people ( he said stroking his $200 .22 saturday night special courtesy of a local bikey)
I know of a tradesman (noty a cunt) who carries a pistol under his seat every time he has to drive through south auckland at night - but hes probably a bit extreme......
"I was really into bestiality, sadomasochism, and necrophilia, but then I realized I was just beating a dead horse."
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If you look at the post I was referring to, you were talking about semi-automatic 'assault rifles'. I said there are clear and obvious reasons why a semi-automatic rifle is advantageous for hunting, which means that the only thing left to define a rifle as an 'assault rifle' as opposed to a hunting rifle is the aesthetics.
Please stick to the argument rather than making insulting insinuations about other peoples personal behaviour.
Personally, I do not take my guns out of their safe unless they are going to be used. I do not 'fondle' them and I do not clean them any more than is required to keep them functional. For my target guns this consists of 10 minutes of cleaning every time I shoot them, for my hunting guns it consists of about 5 minutes before they get put back after a weekend away.
I supply my parents with possums and rabbits which they feed their dogs. This also does a small part to help control the possum population in the area which has devastated the native bush that my parents built their house on the edge of over 15 years ago. I have friends who hunt pigs in the area for food as well as to stop them destroying native undergrowth and rooting out kiwi nests. I have friends who shoot Mynahs (semi-auto shotgun an absolute requirement here) to keep their population down to stop them muscling other native birds out of the area. I have met people who cull deer and goats to protect native land in the south island.
All of these require the rifles that I have previously mentioned to be effective in the pursuits there of. I have demonstrated a clear and tangible need. You need to do better than 1 death per 40mil people per year that may or may not have happened irregardless. 1 person in NZ in the past 10 years by that average? I'm not surprised people here think you're a troll.
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And again, a few people ruin it for the law abiding many. Among the pistol owners that I know, all of them are incredibly careful to stay within the law at all times, no matter what their interpretation of it. Your comment also runs directly in contrary to my experiences with the purchase of several rifles and a couple of pistols.
The behaviour of a few people who ignore firearms laws will not change when the firearm laws are toughened. Firearms will always be available somewhere in the world, and as someone who has worked at a port I can safely say that when something is available somewhere in the world and it is worth a lot of money to someone else, somewhere else, these things will always make it through one way or another. It is too hard to stop everything, and prohibitively expensive to pretend you can. This means that firearms will always be available, the only difference really will be the price.
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And who is making the 'silly inference' now. You are the only one to use comments like this to try and imply that we are not talking 'on the level'.
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I thought visitors night was only on Thursday? not seen a suzuki accross parked outside before...
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They have started doing visitors on Tuesdays at the same time because Thursday has been a mad-house for the past year! So many new shooters and so little space.
I've never taken the bike to the range before, but I am looking forward to being able to (although it might make shooting my rifles a little hard). When I go I take the cage and drop my girlfriend off at Border's to read and have a coffee while I go shooting. She shoots with me when I go hunting sometimes, but doesn't find target shooting all that fun.
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