Illegal Doco on TV2.

[jono035]

Quite right. I have half a dozen and counting, but I could only ever effectively use one at a time!

Then you obviously haven't watched enough Rambo movies and practised the dual-wielding automatic-rifles pose in the mirror enough.

And you call yourself a firearms owner? Pah.

On a serious note, between a .22 pistol, a couple of different centerfire semi-automatics, a revolver, a .22 target rifle, a .22 hunting rifle, a centerfire target rifle, a couple of different centerfire hunting rifles (say a .223 for goats/bunnies and a .308 for deer), a double-barrelled shotgun for clays/bird hunting, a pump action cylinder-choke for pig hunting with slugs and maybe a lever action .22 for plinking and you would have most of your options covered. If you have the money to buy these weapons, they each have their own very different use for which very few are interchangeable. If you are a hunting/target shooting enthusiast then it is quite possible to see how you would end up with all of these weapons. Obviously you would have to be a pretty damn keen hunter to get much use out of them all, but that is entirely up to the individual concerned. If you were to go hunting with mates, then you may even have double-ups of some of the above weapons.

Of course, the people who suggest that the police need to know how many guns you have so they 'know who they are dealing with' seem to think that this automatically makes you a crazed killer, rather than an avid hunter. Doesn't seem logical to me.

And none of that covers the people among us who have an interest in firearms history and shoot black powder or buy an old service rifle or similar for its historic/reminiscent value.

Edit: I find it sad that I felt like I should edit this post to make it more obvious to the firearm-ignorant among us that the first few lines were joking in case it got turned around on me later. I figure this is an acceptable compromise...

[Shadows]

Then you obviously haven't watched enough Rambo movies and practised the dual-wielding automatic-rifles pose in the mirror enough.

And you call yourself a firearms owner? Pah.

Rambo never had a #1 cut, I don't look good in a singlet, and I'd have to get completely trollied in order to be able to slur my words as badly. And seeing as one isn't supposed to get trashed and play with guns I've never had the oppurtinuity *hic*

[jono035]

Rambo never had a #1 cut, I don't look good in a singlet, and I'd have to get completely trollied in order to be able to slur my words as badly. And seeing as one isn't supposed to get trashed and play with guns I've never had the oppurtinuity *hic*

Well that's another thing you're doing wrong!

The other acceptable reason for having so many different guns is that it means you can keep em all loaded and that way you can go for longer without reloading when the swine flu finally mutates into its zombie-causing phase and you have to defend yourself from hordes of zombies hungry for your brain.

Then who is going to have the last laugh? It certainly won't be the people who think firearms should be banned, unless your idea of a laugh sounds something like "brraaaaiiiiiinnnnsssssssss....."

[Shadows]

The other acceptable reason for having so many different guns is that it means you can keep em all loaded and that way you can go for longer without reloading when the swine flu finally mutates into its zombie-causing phase and you have to defend yourself from hordes of zombies hungry for your brain.

Then who is going to have the last laugh? It certainly won't be the people who think firearms should be banned, unless your idea of a laugh sounds something like "brraaaaiiiiiinnnnsssssssss....."

Fuck I wish I'd given that as a reason when I applied for my license. That's a goodie.

[jono035]

Fuck I wish I'd given that as a reason when I applied for my license. That's a goodie.

Was very tempted to apply for my E-cat with a stupid reason like that when I applied for my B. Figured the extra safe was a bit much while renting and that getting an E later on wouldn't be that hard (when the safe costs $1k, $200 filing fee isn't that bad) so applying for an E at the same time and getting denied wouldn't cost me anything. Chickened out in case they decided to deny my B application because of it

[Mr Merde]

I have been thinking of getting my E cat and a C cat licence.

For a C cat I have to write an essay of my interest in firearms.

I have been advised to make it as broad as possible without making it too general or I will be severely limited in what I can collect.

Luckily my interest is in those firearms used by the military and government departments.

Covers pretty much every firearm ever made.

Just for interests sake. In the UK I used to go to a lot of firearms auctions. It was a pain finding something really nice and having to go backwards and forewards with the police (individual firearms reg as well as user) to be able to get what I bid at auction. I went to the poilce, explained this and they decided that I should have a firearms dealers licence. No photo, no references, able to deal in any sort of firearms, valid for 10 years. Way better than the standard firearms licence. I was even legally able to deal in the international firearms trade if i soi desired.

[jono035]

I have been thinking of getting my E cat and a C cat licence.

For a C cat I have to write an essay of my interest in firearms.

I have been advised to make it as broad as possible without making it too general or I will be severely limited in what I can collect.

Luckily my interest is in those firearms used by the military and government departments.

Covers pretty much every firearm ever made.

Just for interests sake. In the UK I used to go to a lot of firearms auctions. It was a pain finding something really nice and having to go backwards and forewards with the police (individual firearms reg as well as user) to be able to get what I bid at auction. I went to the poilce, explained this and they decided that I should have a firearms dealers licence. No photo, no references, able to deal in any sort of firearms, valid for 10 years. Way better than the standard firearms licence. I was even legally able to deal in the international firearms trade if i soi desired.

That sounds like a pretty decent system. From my understanding the UK firearms laws are pretty stringent at the moment. No pistols at all (the UK still has a pistol shooting team though, but I believe they have to practice outside the UK). Individual tickets for individual weapon types etc. Was this the same environment that you had a dealers license in or have things changed since then?

The storage requirements for a collectors license are pretty hefty aren't they? Reinforced concrete strongroom or similar isn't it?

[Mr Merde]

That sounds like a pretty decent system. From my understanding the UK firearms laws are pretty stringent at the moment. No pistols at all (the UK still has a pistol shooting team though, but I believe they have to practice outside the UK). Individual tickets for individual weapon types etc. Was this the same environment that you had a dealers license in or have things changed since then?

The storage requirements for a collectors license are pretty hefty aren't they? Reinforced concrete strongroom or similar isn't it?

No I had no more safety restrictions placed on me than a normal firearms certificate holder. This was before pistols were banned and this is what I coolected. I had 15 different handguns plus rifles.

Yes the British team trains in Switzerland.

Handgun crime has gone up 50% since handguns have been banned. Strange that

[jono035]

No I had no more safety restrictions placed on me than a normal firearms certificate holder. This was before pistols were banned and this is what I coolected. I had 15 different handguns plus rifles.

Yes the British team trains in Switzerland.

Handgun crime has gone up 50% since handguns have been banned. Strange that

Yeah, but coming up with solutions (not sure what the problem actually is however) other than 'firearms bad, ban them!' is difficult!

Was referring to the NZ C endorsement requirements.

Although, anything you get on a C category you cannot fire, so I guess that would be a case of last resort for weapons you could not get on an E cat?

[Swoop]

The storage requirements for a collectors license are pretty hefty aren't they?

Essentially the same as B/E-cat security. Disassembly of the firearm is required for inoperability when being stored. The other categories can be left assembled inside the safe.

[ManDownUnder]

Luckily my interest is in those firearms used by the military and government departments.

Covers pretty much every firearm ever made.

Possibly add or discuss your apparent interest in firearm education and safety also.

[wbks]

So if C is collector and you can't fire, I would assume you can get anything from a fully auto AK to an old Anti-Aircraft gun. Then what is E-category for?

[jono035]

So if C is collector and you can't fire, I would assume you can get anything from a fully auto AK to an old Anti-Aircraft gun. Then what is E-category for?

Yeah, pretty much. There are a lot of machine guns, AA guns, RPGs etc. held on a collectors license, and all stored in inoperable fashion.

E category is for operable semi-automatic rifles that have one of the following things:
Folding or Telescopic Butt Stock
Free Standing Military-Style Pistol Grip
Magazine capacity of more than 15 rounds for .22 rimfire, more than 7 rounds for all others
Bayonet Lug
Flash Suppressor (Sound Suppressors and Muzzle Brakes are excluded from this)

[Swoop]

So if C is collector and you can't fire, I would assume you can get anything from a fully auto AK to an old Anti-Aircraft gun. Then what is E-category for?

For making the firearm go "BANG"...

[The Stranger:Me]

You, are a tool. You refer to firarms users as gun nuts, and the type that sits their oiling their weapons? Get clue!

Shooters come from all walks of life. Licensed users are NOT the ones going on rampages. As soon as logical arguments come about that starts to turn against you, you leave? You dont like guns, fine, nobody is asking you, but why should my sport be punished becuase your paranoid and ignorant of the facts?

They needn't go on a rampage to be dangerous need they. This guy didn't. He was just regular nice guy gun nut too.