Here we go again

**CookMySock** · 13th July 2009, 08:16

Yes, it is fun. Just never give out any particulars.

http://www.419eater.com/

Steve

**Jantar** · 13th July 2009, 10:23

A very common method with the cheque scam is that the cheque will be for considerably more than the value of the bike, and you will be asked to use the funds towards the purchase of the bike, and to pay the freight on the bike out of the cheque. Only after it has cleared of course.

Then once the bike has gone and all bills settled, any remaining funds please return via Western Union.

One month after you thought the cheque had cleared, it is reversed. You have sent your bike, and paid the freight, and given some cash as well.

Accept the deal, bank the cheque into an account different from your main account, and tell them you haven't yet received the cheque. You should be able to string them along for some weeks before they realize that they are being played.

Never give out any genuine bank details, or any personal information like home address phone number etc.

Have fun.

**slofox** · 13th July 2009, 13:52

I had a similar approach here - some "American living in Japan" whose English language skills suggested he had been away from the USA for a looooonnng time indeed, wanted to purchase about $12,000.00 worth of Central Otago Pinot Noir...yeah right. I played him along for a bit, just emailing back and forth to see what would happen - at the same time involving the local police and the security team at my ISP...his angle was to get me to cover the freight charges in advance...fukkin likely cuzzie!
I eventually got bored and told him to fook oof. Which he did.

**CookMySock** · 13th July 2009, 17:52

Originally Posted by Jantar

Accept the deal, bank the cheque into an account different from your main account, and tell them you haven't yet received the cheque.

DON'T. This is fraud. It doesn't matter that they are breaking the law - this does not excuse you.

You are knowingly taking part in an global crime syndicate. Do it and face the consequences.

Steve

**JimO** · 13th July 2009, 18:51

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

DON'T. This is fraud. It doesn't matter that they are breaking the law - this does not excuse you.

You are knowingly taking part in an global crime syndicate. Do it and face the consequences.

Steve

how is banking a cheque that you recieved as payment fraud, how are you to know that the cheque sender is a conman.

**marty** · 13th July 2009, 19:10

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

DON'T. This is fraud. It doesn't matter that they are breaking the law - this does not excuse you.

You are knowingly taking part in an global crime syndicate. Do it and face the consequences.

Steve

What specific offence is being committed?

**Jiminy** · 13th July 2009, 19:32

Originally Posted by FROSTY

I have the intention of purchasing your advert for sale.

Easy: sell the advert and keep the bike, then repeat!

**pzkpfw** · 13th July 2009, 19:41

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Today I got an actual letter, hand-written envelope and a 50-something cent stamp and all, wanting me to put my name on a list and send $10 to someone. Now that's old school scammery.
)

**Sparrowhawk** · 13th July 2009, 19:56

Jantar is right. I had to deal with this a few times when I worked for a bank.

International cheques are cleared by the bank usually within 7-14 days, however there is recourse over it for 3 months (from memory), it's a long time anyway.

The cheque itself, after being received by your bank, is POSTED overseas to the originating bank, who then decide to honour or dishonour it, then POST it back to your bank. By which stage 2 or 3 weeks, at least, have past, you've spent the money, sent the goods, wired back the remainder of the funds, and you're screwed.