Pakeha - do you like this name?

[Oscar]

Sorry. Did I miss putting the little light up in the top left of your screen?
The 3 races are still Caucasian, Negroid and Asiatic. Everyone is a derivative of them. And more than one, for that matter. We are all Mongrels.
It's just that the Poms are more so...

I must be mongrel of mongrels - Scots/English/Irish mixture..

[Ixion]

Does anyone have a derogatory term for Canadians?

Canadian. Doesn't get more derogatory than that. .

[MSTRS:Me]

I must be mongrel of mongrels - Scots/English/Irish mixture..

Only 3? You got off lightly...
Still...how do you describe yourself? Pakeha? European? NZer?

[Bonez]

What is the fascination of Kiwis with Celtic heritage?

Because it's fasinating? We're all migrents to this fine country. It nice to know our origins.

[Oscar]

Only 3? You got off lightly...
Still...how do you describe yourself? Pakeha? European? NZer?

Grumpy Old Cahnt.

[Oscar]

Because it's fasinating? We're all migrents to this fine country. It nice to know our origans.

I dunno how many Kiwis I've talked to who claimed Bony Prince Charlie or The Ancient Kings of Eire as their ancestors. They must of been randy old buggers.

Notwithstanding that, the average white migrant to NZ since 1830 has been a Anglican English Yeomanry or Methodist Scot.

[crazyhorse]

Why do we need to be called something that does not even sound English???

And what is wrong with European? When you get pulled up by the cops, they normally say European or ......, they do not refer to you as a pakeha!

I rest my case

[peasea]

Because it's fasinating? We're all migrents to this fine country. It nice to know our origins.

I find it all rather fascinating too, as I found ancient Egypt fascinating when I was at school. I loved the mummies at the museum and shit like that. The Incas and Aztecs also take my interest, especially with the firebird drawings and so on.

I can recall one Doctor Leaky unerthing all manner of cool fossils in Africa years ago and trying to find the 'missing link' etc. I don't recall his work being stymied by Africans destroying ancient sites or preventing examination of bones and other artifacts.

I really don't give a rats arse who was in NZ first but I would like to get to the bottom of this land's history. If the Oompa-loompa tribe got here first, so be it, if it were Celts, so be it, Maori or whoever. Let's get over the political/racist b/s and get to the facts.

[Oscar]

Why do we need to be called something that does not even sound English???

And what is wrong with European? When you get pulled up by the cops, they normally say European or ......, they do not refer to you as a pakeha!

I rest my case

Were you born in Europe?

[Bonez]

Why do we need to be called something that does not even sound English???

And what is wrong with European? When you get pulled up by the cops, they normally say European or ......, they do not refer to you as a pakeha!

I rest my case

"English" is a conclomeration of many langauges. What's the problem adding another to the mix? Authorities prefer a black and white approach, excuse the pun. Makes their lives easier.

Like others here I put "New Zealander" on any official docs where they ask about my "race".

Now that I think of it most of a the police I've met over the years use the word caucasion when refering to my ethnicity. I personnaly prefer ginga.

[James Deuce]

The Spainish element in Ireland allegedly comes from Armada survivors washing up there.

You're confused. But so am I.

I always thought my family name simply meant "Welsh" and marked us as Welsh migrants to Ireland, but it turns out it's "Wallacs", and is a Basque name from the last Celtic migration in the 15th C.

[Oscar]

You're confused. But so am I.

I always thought my family name simply meant "Welsh" and marked us as Welsh migrants to Ireland, but it turns out it's "Wallacs", and is a Basque name from the last Celtic migration in the 15th C.

I was referring to the "Black Irish".

[Mikkel]

A bit preseumpteous to assume that everyone on Kiwibiker fits the Pakeha term, innit?

Anyway, doesn't matter to me - I don't care what you call me, it won't change who I am.

[Naki Rat]

Does anyone have a derogatory term for Canadians?

Canook

But they're still way better than the seppos from south of the border

[Grahameeboy]

The Irish are/were Celts. Just as were the Scots and the Welsh. But you are right about the English not being a race...they were invaded so many times that the term Mongrel describes them quite nicely.

In which case, so is Darkie. Or Tar Baby.

To be honest names are just that and it's upto to the receiver to ignore the names...or make it an excuse to make a fuss.I get called a POM all the time and it goes in one and out the other....