heh heh dittoOriginally Posted by elle-f
Duc chick
heh heh ditto
Jabulani Kupela www.michelleclair.com
Grumpy Old Bastard
I have been an AA member for over 35 years...I treat it as a form of insurance - there for when I have a vehicle (of any sort) problem. I have been grateful for membership enough times during all those years to keep up the premium (which reduces with length of membership). I completely ignore the attitudes that are sometimes displayed in the magazine. In fact I usually don't even read it...I have always found the call-out staff to be pretty good people.
Just to give a little more balance to this thread - here are some more quotes from that same article.
"We found that road safety messages on TV are often misleading and that they create more problems than they solve."
"...government advertising suggests you should be grateful to receive a speeding ticket because it will save your life. In fact, exceeding speed limits aren't (sic) a major issue.'
"It is true however that unsafe speed for the conditions is a factor - as it was in over half the accidents we analysed. Many crashes occur on road bends because drivers take them too fast (especially in SUV's or when it's wet.)"
"Nor is it true that middle aged New Zealand drivers creeping a few kilometres over the limit on long empty straights dominate the road toll."
"It is apparent that one in six (crashes) were caused by people who don't care about any kind of rules...men who speed, drink, don't wear seat belts, have no valid licence or WOF's - who are basically renegades."
"Then there are alcohol related fatal crashes. There were 44 last year. Most were well over the limit and most involved speed or renegades or both."
"Perhaps road safety messages themselves are problematic, as they tend to imply public disobedience is to blame for our road toll."
"Fatigue is a huge issue, not for young families as in the TV commercial, but for commercial drivers, older people and tourists,"
"Half of the 12 fatalities caused by not wearing seat belts involved big SUV's. People seem to assume SUV's protect them - but they don't."
So there you have it. The article is not just an attack on motorbikes. It does make some valid points.
Having said that, I will be sending them a little note drawing to their attention the idiocy of equating motorbiking with smoking and pointing out that they stand to lose support and credibility when they make stupid statement like that.
Finally, I would have to say that either the author, Peter King, needs grammar lessons or that someone needs to hire a better proof reader...most of the quotes above are as written...
. “No pleasure is worth giving up for two more years in a rest home.” Kingsley Amis
Forum whore
I canned mine (my wife had insisted I have it when I got back into bikes) when a call centre staff member told me that the AA didn't "do motorcycles" when I got a flat in the middle of nowhere.
Instead I rang Stu at TSS and they picked me up. For free.
I'm surprised that you think that AA has any credibility with anyone under 60. They've left my wife on the side of the road with broken car full of young kids, more than once. She's not a slow learner or anything, she felt secure that the AA card in her wallet would be helpful. I've upset people with my comments about the AA before, but I only have my experience to go by, and that experience says that the average random biker is more reliable than the AA.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
It's time...
However insulted one might feel about this, it's undeniable, surely?
True.
Grumpy Old Bastard
I can only go on my own experiences JD. So far, I have had positive interaction only. However, if I was treated as your Mrs was, or told they "don't do motorbikes", then I would be out of there as well.
I don't know about the credibility issue - to be honest I have never thought about it. As I said, I can only go on my own experiences...
I'll post up when and if AA replies to the email I sent them this morning about that article. Could be interesting.
. “No pleasure is worth giving up for two more years in a rest home.” Kingsley Amis
Forum whore
Just tell it like it is Les...don't hold back now......
Unless Katman or the Mormon few are on the roadSmoking, to some degree, adversely affects the health of ALL who smoke. Motorcycling does not. So there!
I saw a lot of scooter riders smoking, whilst carving up the Parisian traffic - are they doubly at risk?
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
Shit - 40-50 years old and recently returned to biking, damn that's me!
So far I am not in the crash statistics - I wonder how many of us 40-50 year old born-again bikers that havn't crashed there are?
The only thing I regret about returning to biking is that I didn't do it a few years earlier!
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"If the cops didn't see it, I didn't do it!"
- George Carlin (RIP)
It's time...
You mean since being "born again"?
I haven't crashed (yet) in my second biking life. I couldn't exactly say that about the first one.
PS: Oops sorry, doesn't apply to me, I'm over 50.
Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
Yeah - I was more reckless and took more risks back when I was 18-20 riding a 2-stroke 250 (so both riding & smoking).
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"If the cops didn't see it, I didn't do it!"
- George Carlin (RIP)
Hardcore Biker
You would think it would be fairly easy to get the 34 accident reports to see how the authorities attribute cause and fault. Yeah right. I sometimes had to get similar reports etc as part of my job. They obviously remove the details of the victims but sometimes the details the LTSA use are not what is provided by the emergency services. Already a slant is being put on the figures.
Then people like the AA chop up that data into little chunks to suit their own ends and the details are even more blurred. Then it is fed to us.
Sloppy at best.
Armature speller
"Half of the 12 fatalities caused by not wearing seat belts involved big SUV's. People seem to assume SUV's protect them - but they don't."
So that could also read...
"Half of the 12 fatalities caused by not wearing seat belts involved normal cars. People seem to assume normal cars protect them - but they don't."
Hardcore Biker
Plus 1. KB poll needed?
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
From the same magazine I noticed this little gem of an advert.
"Ride hard - Live free"?
"... each hour, the door opens ... as a scuptural motorcycle revs up to mark the time!"
Well then...
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
Armature speller
I've just been sick...
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
... I know the feeling. To begin with I couldn't work out if the clock was a pisstake on bikers in general, being in a car magazine...
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
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