Gear changing questions...

**Breed777** · 27th July 2009, 16:30

hey guys....

When going from 1st to 2nd, at what RPM do you change? I am finding the gearbox feels different than changing to any other gear... It quite a solid 'clunk' into 2nd, sometimes like a 'doulbe clunk'... am I changing correctly?

Also another 1st to 2nd question, Sometime I launch from say traffic lights, get halfway across the road and go into second and end up in Neutral instead... any tips for stopping this?

Cheer for the help

**Sparky Bills** · 27th July 2009, 16:34

This has been asked many many times.
The last thread might still be going actually.

Just ride the bike mate. It will smoothen out as you get more experience and confident with your riding.
Thats the best way to fix your issue. Ride, ride and ride some more.

Good luck.

**Leyton** · 27th July 2009, 16:38

Originally Posted by Sparky Bills

This has been asked many many times.
The last thread might still be going actually.

Just ride the bike mate. It will smoothen out as you get more experience and confident with your riding.
Thats the best way to fix your issue. Ride, ride and ride some more.

Good luck.

What Sparky said dude

Quite often a clunk can be not pulling the clutch fully in on the 250's, or not pulling enough revs on depending on the box. Each gear box is different, Getting "N" in between 1st and 2nd can be a result of a lazy foot, still to hard on the gas "gear locking" or the wrong grade oil in the engine. (If your bike is serviced regularly you can almost rule that out), just keep riding

Oh and if yours is a Hyosung.. I had that problem on mine too

The gear change just requires a bit more enthusiasm hehe

**Breed777** · 27th July 2009, 16:38

Originally Posted by Sparky Bills

This has been asked many many times.
The last thread might still be going actually.

Just ride the bike mate. It will smoothen out as you get more experience and confident with your riding.
Thats the best way to fix your issue. Ride, ride and ride some more.

Good luck.

Cheers mate, is there anything I may be doing wrong? letting clutch out too fast maybe?

**Leyton** · 27th July 2009, 16:44

Originally Posted by Breed777

Cheers mate, is there anything I may be doing wrong? letting clutch out too fast maybe?

Perhaps maybe, It is a hard thing to really judge even consciously thinking about clutch and throttle operation. It does come naturally over time.

Have you had your bike serviced ? (Just to check the clutch play)

I have ridden some crap dirt bikes in the past (not my bikes!) and found clutch setting and adjustment to be out on all of them.

Rule of thumb is to have the play, measured at the leaver to have a slack of about 4mm. This allows for expansion of the clutch plates. on that note.. do you notice that the gears clunk more when the engine is hot ? or cold ?

**Sparky Bills** · 27th July 2009, 16:44

Could be a number of things really.
Hard to narrow them down without actually seeing you ride. Just be smooth with EVERYTHING.
Pulling in the lever, letting the lever out, letting the throttle off, twisting the throttle.
Its all about getting the timing right. Everyone has their own style on their own bikes. You just need to find yours.

**Tony.OK** · 27th July 2009, 16:53

Originally Posted by Breed777

hey guys....

When going from 1st to 2nd, at what RPM do you change? I am finding the gearbox feels different than changing to any other gear... It quite a solid 'clunk' into 2nd, sometimes like a 'doulbe clunk'... am I changing correctly?

Also another 1st to 2nd question, Sometime I launch from say traffic lights, get halfway across the road and go into second and end up in Neutral instead... any tips for stopping this?

Cheer for the help

Firstly 1st - 2nd includes neutral.........thats why it feels different, it always will.
Secondly you may need to be a bit firmer in your changing, you'd be lucky to find someones thats never hit neutral by mistake...........usually followed by a horrible embarrising feeling of "did anyone notice?"

Another thing to consider though is the position of your gear lever, it could be as simple as being a tad high, making it an unnatural angle for your ankle.

**Sparky Bills** · 27th July 2009, 16:59

Originally Posted by Tony.OK

Another thing to consider though is the position of your gear lever, it could be as simple as being a tad high, making it an unnatural angle for your ankle.

Ooooo good point Tony!
Setting up the position of all your levers is very important. Makes riding even easier.

**Boob Johnson** · 27th July 2009, 17:04

I find the higher the revs the more "umphh" is required to get into 2nd.

**p.dath** · 27th July 2009, 19:30

Originally Posted by Breed777

hey guys....

When going from 1st to 2nd, at what RPM do you change? I am finding the gearbox feels different than changing to any other gear... It quite a solid 'clunk' into 2nd, sometimes like a 'doulbe clunk'... am I changing correctly?

Also another 1st to 2nd question, Sometime I launch from say traffic lights, get halfway across the road and go into second and end up in Neutral instead... any tips for stopping this?

Cheer for the help

I like to change out of first when the revs are quite high. It's more fun. Ditto with second.

A solid clunk can be quite normal with some bikes. I wouldn't worry about that.

Just make a mental note when changing from first to second to give it more of a push.

**AD345** · 27th July 2009, 20:47

Not having a rev counter I'm not 100% sure what the RPM is when I change into second.

However, careful observation and listening has enabled me to deduce that my bike tops out at about 45 revolutions per minute so I probably change at 30

or thereabouts

**CookMySock** · 27th July 2009, 21:06

Adjust your gear lever down just a few mm to help with missed 1-2 changes. Change up at a higher revs (combined with more throttle) if you want more power.

Steve

**Ragingrob** · 27th July 2009, 21:20

You might also wanna check the amount of play in your clutch... If there's too much play then you may not be pulling the clutch in far enough which would make things clunky. Could check your oil level/quality too.

Other than that, what everyone else said.

**mossy1200** · 27th July 2009, 21:30

Originally Posted by Sparky Bills

Ooooo good point Tony!
Setting up the position of all your levers is very important. Makes riding even easier.

plus 5 .Its common to buy your bike from someone a different size than yourself hence different angles.dont drop its so low that you cant get your foot under when leaned over though.