R1 vs Porsche

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try:

top.gear@bbc.co.uk

never know, if enough of us email, they might even listen (yea, right)

[Coldkiwi]

I concur. It didn't seem to me that the rider (the wannabe Avocado Tree Grower) was taking the corners fast enough - he did't seem to be getting his knee down enough, too much air between him and the track. In some cases that may well be becuse the cage was blocking his path but other times it looked like he just lacked the skills/confidence to get everything he could out of the R1.

THIS from an LS400 rider!? Talk about irony. Niall Mackenzie is no flaming slouch my friend and as has been said, would ride multiple rings around anyone on this site. He definitely wasn't giving it everything though. Just watch his riding position as he accelerates onto the front straight- he's not even in a proper racing crouch! I would put my money on it being rigged

[Wolf]

THIS from an LS400 rider!? Talk about irony. Niall Mackenzie is no flaming slouch my friend and as has been said, would ride multiple rings around anyone on this site. He definitely wasn't giving it everything though. Just watch his riding position as he accelerates onto the front straight- he's not even in a proper racing crouch! I would put my money on it being rigged

Crap tho' the LS is, it's more bike than Clarkson's ever ridden.

I didn't say I could do a better job, I was saying that MacKenzie wasn't doing a proper job of it. What must be going through MacKenzie's mind - being paid to lose a race by some guy who called him a homosexual on television.

[John]

Its true, he was holding back BIG time, I noticed it when I watched it on TV ages ago, I was like.. hmm what the hells going on here.

If they wanted to have a real test put a turbo busa on the track with them.

Not being cocky and dont flame me, but even I would have being pushing harder.

[Zed]

What must be going through MacKenzie's mind - being paid to lose a race by some guy who called him a homosexual on television.

Lol, some people will do very extreme things for money you know!

Besides, MacKenzie probably didn't realise that he was representing every hardcore motorcyclist (even those way down in the uttermost parts of the world here in NZ) when he went out and "threw" that race!

[Kickaha]

Those of you who don't beleive a car can beat a bike have obviously never come up against a really fast car with a good driver over a reasonable stretch of road

And In over twenty years of riding I can only recall twice when it's happened to me and one of those times I got hammered,and strangely enough that was by a Porsche

I personally don't think that someone like MacKenzie would throw a race as with most competitors at a high level all they're interested in is to win and what evidence does everyone have to support the "theory" that he was holding back?

[scumdog]

Those of you who don't beleive a car can beat a bike have obviously never come up against a really fast car with a good driver over a reasonable stretch of road

And In over twenty years of riding I can only recall twice when it's happened to me and one of those times I got hammered,and strangely enough that was by a Porsche

I personally don't think that someone like MacKenzie would throw a race as with most competitors at a high level all they're interested in is to win and what evidence does everyone have to support the "theory" that he was holding back?

Dead right K., most of the time it's the 'out of the corner acceleration' that gives a bike its edge, - that a a certain amount of ability to "straighten" said corners.

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Those of you who don't beleive a car can beat a bike have obviously never come up against a really fast car with a good driver over a reasonable stretch of road

And In over twenty years of riding I can only recall twice when it's happened to me and one of those times I got hammered,and strangely enough that was by a Porsche

I personally don't think that someone like MacKenzie would throw a race as with most competitors at a high level all they're interested in is to win and what evidence does everyone have to support the "theory" that he was holding back?

I've once been beaten by a Serria Cosworth, going from Whanganui to New Plymouth. At Patea he was filling up and heard me trying to keep up with him...
Not a bad chap, he kindly offered to slow down so I could keep up!

[MD]

The rider wasn't "holding back" he was disgrunted that they couldn't give him a fast bike, something that can atleast finish SBK before the camera crews have packed up and gone home would have helped.

[TonyB]

Here ya go: http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/med...feud/index.php

And for those saying, "Well... if it'd been a GSXR instead of an R1, it would've been different", this one is a GSXR1000.

Enjoy....

Now that was cool.

The truth is that the £24,000 Crescent-modified and fettled superbike with a full complement of pit-crew and one of the top riders in the world perched on top of it managed to pip the not-quite-top-spec, straight-out-of-the-box Radical by two-tenths of a second.

Dontcha love the way a purpose made track car suddenly becomes a basic out of the box car? It's all very well doing this sort of thing on a nice smooth race track, but if they really want to proove anything, I reckon it needs to be done on the road. Can't see the cars coping with the IOM circuit too well- those low cars don't like real roads with real bumps.
Got to agree with Motu from several pages back though- there is no contest betwixt a bike and an open wheeler race car (eg F1). Downforce enables them to do things that are simply impossible for a bike, and just as well too- would you want bike racing to be as boring as F1?

[Coldkiwi]

Crap tho' the LS is, it's more bike than Clarkson's ever ridden.

I didn't say I could do a better job, I was saying that MacKenzie wasn't doing a proper job of it. What must be going through MacKenzie's mind - being paid to lose a race by some guy who called him a homosexual on television.

fair nuff. I guess the other option to niall throwing the race is some selective editing by a clarkson bunny of a whole lot of footage of the bike and car in different places to make it look like the car 'won' on a certain lap where he happened to be in front. shady behaviour, but not out of the question for a man so uncertain about his sexuality that he says 'i won't ride the bike because I'm a heterosexual'!!

[SPORK]

Hmm, back to muscle cars for a second, I personally think that the new Ford Mustang GT 2005 is sex on (four) wheels.

I mean, what's not to like about it!?

[Waylander]

Hmm, back to muscle cars for a second, I personally think that the new Ford Mustang GT 2005 is sex on (four) wheels.

I mean, what's not to like about it!?

That is not a muscle car though in fact all consideration no mustang is a muscle car. They are sports cars. Muscle cars are more about power and torque and Sports cars are handeling and speed.

[SPORK]

That is not a muscle car though in fact all consideration no mustang is a muscle car. They are sports cars. Muscle cars are more about power and torque and Sports cars are handeling and speed.

Well, my mistake, but it's got killer looks, none the less. There was something on the Star Times about it vs. a Monaro (sp?). Also on the opposite page was an R1 vs CBR1000RR, with nice matching wheelies

[Waylander]

Well, my mistake, but it's got killer looks, none the less. There was something on the Star Times about it vs. a Monaro (sp?). Also on the opposite page was an R1 vs CBR1000RR, with nice matching wheelies

will agree on the looks