R1 vs Porsche

[Lou Girardin]

Clarkson must have psychological problems with bikes and/or leather. He was scared shitless when taken for a lap on a litrebike and he keeps referring to the suspect sexuality of people wearing racesuits. (Although he may have a point there, hehe.)
But whenever these bike/car comparisons are made on the basis of lap times, the bike smokes the car, any car. I tend to think that having a cage up your chuff under brakes for a corner may be a tad unsettling for the rider, hence the slower laps.
I may be wrong, but I seem to remember a 0 - 160 - 0 test on a bike that was qicker than the Cobra. It was seconds quicker to 160 for a start.

[bugjuice]

wow, the Clarkson file downloaded in 23 seconds at work (25 mins at home) and 5th Gear in 50 seconds (gave up at home).. I love work, until I have to work..

Anyhoo, Jez just shows how he isn't into bikes. He reckons we're the wusses? And he's never riden a bike? Then who's the wuss? We have more bang for our buck, which means we can get better machines compared to the cage variety, so I thought that'd put us high up the adrenalin junkie list... rubber.. pftt, he expect us to bounce when we come off?

The 5th Gear one is better, shows that a super bike and super car can be fairly evenly matched... Shame the rider couldn't drift out of the corners, and couldn't drift it in fast. Also agree with Lou, that having a bike and car on the track together altho amusing, can be a little intimidating, altho these guys are meant to be pros all the same..

Jez should have got Rossi and Schuey, now there's a race..

[Motu]

Jez should have got Rossi and Schuey, now there's a race..

Rossi would fluff the start,Schuey would chop air...Rossi would pounce mid race but be taken out mid corner as the big chin pushes him off the track - no contest,Ferrari would bounce the Yamaha into the litter...

[James Deuce]

Rossi would fluff the start,Schuey would chop air...Rossi would pounce mid race but be taken out mid corner as the big chin pushes him off the track - no contest,Ferrari would bounce the Yamaha into the litter...

No only that the F1 car would out accelerate and out brake the bike massively. Scheuy would do that stuff whilst lapping Rossi after 5 laps.

[vifferman]

it downloaded half of it, then it must have given up.. stupid dialup. Might as well watch it at work.
Aren't they playing that series on TV at the weekend? I've seen those running for the past few weeks, but can't remember when

Saturday afternoons on TV1, but hasn't been on for a coupla weeks.
The Porsche vs. R1 was on that a few weeks ago.
Clarkson admitted he hated bikes because the power scared him. The funny thing is, though, that on one of his shows on TV1, he said that the most fun car he'd ever driven was the Carver - that funny tilting Dutch 3-wheeler. Why? Because it leans when it goes around corners... :spudwhat:

Somewhere on the Interweb, there's another more comprehensive and carefully-considered car vs. bike test, with 2 bikes and several cars. One of the bike riders was Aaron Slight. The cars were whipped.

I'll see if I can dig up a link to it...

[vifferman]

Here ya go: http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/med...feud/index.php

And for those saying, "Well... if it'd been a GSXR instead of an R1, it would've been different", this one is a GSXR1000.

Enjoy....

[Timber020]

Jeremy knows jack about almost everything, including about cars considering his job for the last decade. Hes entertaining enough but I wouldnt put any weight on anything he says. Being a proffessional car critic with the amount of driving he would do, and to spend so much time on the same track you would think his lap time would be alot better.

Cages have their appeal, I like cobras and the shelby stangs (ah what a great man shelby is..)

This thing does 260kmph,weighs 75kgs, does over 26kms to the litre at 185kmph, it and can be built for about the same as most sportbikes.

[Marmoot]

Jez should have got Rossi and Schuey, now there's a race..

It was done with Schuey and Biaggi before with Ferrarri vs Yamaha (500).
The bike lost.
But the new RCV or M1 may make a difference

[dveus]

While Clarkson may no "jack" all as its been put, he is still very entertaining. Too many car shows try to be serious all the time and there just plain boring.

As for the car vs bike arguements the simple fact is the cars have a much larger contact patch with the road which allows for more grip, therefore they often will be quicker round a track than the bikes. As for the everyday usability of the two a bike will sure get through traffic a lot quicker.

[Lou Girardin]

Watch Clarksons driving next time. He's very ragged at the limit, not even on the same planet as Tiff Needel. Even Martin Brundel said he was gob-smacked at how Needel can drift anything. Poor old Jeremy loops it as often as not.
Jeeza talks the talk, nothing else.

[vifferman]

Watch Clarksons driving next time. He's very ragged at the limit, not even on the same planet as Tiff Needel. Even Martin Brundel said he was gob-smacked at how Needel can drift anything. Poor old Jeremy loops it as often as not.
Jeeza talks the talk, nothing else.

Yeah, but like dveus says, he's very entertaining, whereas Tiff pisses me off - he's such a wanker.

[Motu]

These car/bike arguments always make me laugh - it's our egos talking,we always think our bikes are faster than a car...me too! But the contact patch and aerodynamics counter argument always comes out,until bikes overcome that it's no contest.Also equipment level,you really need to be testing a fully optioned Goldwing against the Porsche,or do you want it stripped down to R1 level?

Look at the two top level racing classes - Formula 1 and MotoGP.Every year the cars are clobbered with more restrictions...this year it's the grooved (no slicks for the 6 yrs or so) tyres having to last two qualifying runs and the whole race,engine and aero restrictions....just imagine how fast these things could go if they let them,waaaaaay faster.MotoGP bikes are restricted in power too,because they can't put it down,there is probably twice what they got available,but they can't use it.That is what made the Yamaha competitive - they killed the power big time and boosted bottom end...HUGELY limited by contact patch...so is the F1 car,but by regulation.

[Marmoot]

Agree with Motu.

BUT, we're still the fastest 0-to-speedlimit off the greenlights in Auckland. I think that's the most important thing for my ego at the moment.

[bugjuice]

Agree with Motu.

BUT, we're still the fastest 0-to-speedlimit off the greenlights in Auckland. I think that's the most important thing for my ego at the moment.

that what my bro thought too, until someone did a U-turn a little down the road ahead in front without looking back at the lights first..

[Marmoot]

that what my bro thought too, until someone did a U-turn a little down the road ahead in front without looking back at the lights first..

well that calls for 180degree stoppie......time to make that stunt compulsory in CBT