Nigel Latta parenting show TV1 tonight.

[The Pastor]

It is, I find it interesting when he give techniques names...all this time I've been practicing the "SAS" sleep training technique and I never knew it until he told me...

i havnt watched the show, whats the SAS sleep training thing? close eyes?

[sunhuntin]

What Nigel Latta was saying is that all the 'over praising" stuff was an attempt to make sure kids have good self-esteem - so the intentions were good but what it's done is lead to a whole lot of young people (Generation Y) with a "the world owes me a living" attitude.

from time to time, i will venture into the parenting board on tardme. its amazing how many parents have "gifted" kids, just cos this one rolled over at x months old, and this 3 year old can write their name etc etc.
hell, the twins mum used to look after were able to spell and write not only their names but scores of words, they could read unaided, and do some basic maths, they could recite the alphabet without mistake. they werent gifted, they had someone dedicated to educating them before they went to school.
ive seen so many kids who arent allowed to be kids. one boy i used to babysit wasnt allowed to roll down hills! wtf... thats the most fun of all!
i like that advert for the bread... 'we're playing cowboys and local idiginous [sp] people' lmfao.

[James Deuce]

Nigel Latta needs (yet) another beating around the back of the bike sheds.

[tri boy]

Few years back, a mates 4yr old "darling lil boy" thought it was a great game to throw potatoes at adults while they were chatting to each other. (the adults, not the potatoes).
So the lil prick hurled a spud at me, which struck me on nose. (good throw for a 4yr old actually). Fuck it hurt. So I picked up the spud, (potato, not the kid), and hurled it into his guts.

Well, you would of thought I had cut the lil buggers throat. Mums n dads abused the shit out of me n demonized my actions.
Funny thing was, me and that lil shit became great mates. He would show me his drawings, want to build forts and ride in the truck with me.
Fuck the PC world.
That kid learnt that for every action he took, there might be a counter action that works against him.

[Winston001]

Essentially I agree with Nigel Latta and everyone here but its healthy to look at the other side of the issue - later.

I've been through this parenting period with my children who are now entering their teens. I haven't actually seen evidence of kids set up to fail by over-praise. In fact I'm struggling to think of even one example.

What I do see is spoilt kids but they were around when I was a kid too. Nothing new about that.

Raising our children was frustrating at times - I often said "we can't wrap them in cotton wool..." and tried to make them take risks. My wife was having none of that because mothers protect their children, so no surprise there. Other mothers were the same.

Its worked out so far. But my kids are winners anyway. School leaders, competitive gymnasts, good manners, so maybe don't fit the mould which Nigel Latta is talking about.

[MSTRS:Me]

The cream will rise to the top, anyway. It's just that (all) the rest would like to believe that they are cream too. When they are not.
*old fart's voice* Back in our day, sonny, we knew our place. And it was the place that we earned for ourselves, once we'd got too old for the children should be seen and not heard. We never got anything handed to us on a plate, except dinner.

[The Stranger:Me]

BIG lies we tell kids (Nigel Latta)

So how many kids has Nigel Latta raised and how did they turn out?
Surely this is the proof of the pie.

[short-circuit]

Then they get to school and have to contend with the lies our teachers tell our kids.

• Gravity does not exist because the earth spins.
• The sun doesn't burn gas.
• There is no English treaty.

Fuck what school do your kids go to?

[yungatart]

So how many kids has Nigel Latta raised and how did they turn out?
Surely this is the proof of the pie.

He has two little boys (about 6 and 9 I think).
As for how they turned out, time will tell I suppose, but we have raised our kids pretty much the way he is advocating and they are all great...and no, I don't think I'm biased at all

[The Stranger:Me]

He has two little boys (about 6 and 9 I think).
As for how they turned out, time will tell I suppose, but we have raised our kids pretty much the way he is advocating and they are all great...and no, I don't think I'm biased at all

No, I don't think you are either.
Just so often see bullshit being spouted by idiots who haven't been there themselves. We had a fair little shit round our place one time. Got a crack from me and told never to come back for fooking with my car after many polite cautions and a few not so polite too. Found out later his mother took the positive parenting night class at the local school. He found out what positive parenting was when I got hold of him alright.

[Fatt Max]

Great show all round.

I met a bunch of ladies that worked in a kindy a few weeks ago, they were all completley stressed and strung out over the expectations and threats put on them by these PC orientated parents fuelled by the pointless and crap 'Parenting' help books that the green party suggest you read.

I did like the bit when the clown guy sighted Remuera as the worst place for kiddies parties....rich kids eh, their parents can afford a whole library of that crap.

Bling for the show....

[Genestho]

Great show all round.

...pointless and crap 'Parenting' help books that the green party suggest you read.....

I wonder if that's often the handicap, parents so busy reading books and watching super nanny that their own commensense is watered down?

[Ms Piggy]

Nigel Latta needs (yet) another beating around the back of the bike sheds.

Huh? What do ya mean Mister?

[Ms Piggy]

Okay, some interesting comments. I'm particularly interested in the comment about parenting (or more specifically what Nigel Latta is saying) being common sense...I reckon for some parents it's not.

I'm sure there's loads of different reasons but who teaches parents how to be "good" parents? Anyway, that's off the topic but it''s something I often ponder.

Carry on.

[Ms Piggy]

I defy anyone to say that building a child's self-esteem is a bad thing. There are plenty of miserable bitter adults in the world who would have benefited from kindness and encouragement when young.

I think someone might have said this but I didn't get the feeling Nigel Latta was poo pooing building children's self esteem by being positive and encouraging them but he was proposing that building self-esteem isn't about telling children everything they do is wonderful and perfect...although I'm not quite sure where you find the balance. I mean ya don't want to be slamming a kiddie every time they bring you 1 of their bits of art or woodwork.