Anyone in Wellington got off a parking ticket?

**firefighter** · 25th January 2010, 09:27

Originally Posted by Jon Visser

No - the Bylaw (see 6.5 of http://wellington.govt.nz/plans/bylaws/traffic.html) states that motorcycles may not use P&D spaces at all.

How this is not discrimmination is beyond me........

I suppose it's a good way to pick on/discourage those helping to reduce congestion, good old Kiwi attitude and foresight.

Fuck i'm embarrassed to be a kiwi sometimes.

**red mermaid** · 25th January 2010, 09:42

Originally Posted by Broomrider

This is the offence you can fight, there is no where on a bike you can safely put a pay and display ticket. You got one it was blown away in the wind or it was stolen...CCC do not supply us with enough/any motorcycle parks in the city and if they do they are few and far between, I have seen one of late and that is in Rangiora... so tell the judge you paid but it went missing, and that almost all streets in CHCH CBD are pay and display so what choice do you have....

The reminder notice is secondary and if the judge says to you..." did you park there? did you get the original ticket? ... if you answer yes, he can tell you that you did receive notice and you were aware of the fine... case closed if he wants to be a pedantic bastard.

Unless you can produce proof that the CCC are using your case for training to emphasise that they must get their paperwork correct, therefore proving that CCC did stuff up, this will be dimissed as hearsay.

So I take it the best legal advice you have is to go to Court, tell lies, and therefore perjure yourself in front of the Judge.

You know of course that the penalty for perjury is prison?

**jaykay** · 25th January 2010, 12:48

As there is no requirement to take the witness stand which means the judge cannot ask the question, there is no question of telling lies.

Anyway - has anyone got a Council Reminder Notice issued within the last few months?

I could do with knowing how Further Action 3 on the reverse is worded - and if the Due Date is 28 days from the date the notice was posted OR 28 days from the date the notice was received.

I have a Christchurch example, any other council ones would be useful.

**PuppetMaster** · 10th February 2010, 12:51

To answer the original poster. yes, you can get off tickets from WCC. I got one for not displaying my rego properly or something (it was ages ago). It is behind the number plate but the nub warden maggot obviously couldnt be fucked looking properly and gave me a ticket. I took some photo's and sent the WCC a letter asking why I could see the rego and the warden cunty couldnt. They took my case no further. Ofcourse it didnt help their case that the faggot warden cunty bitch wrote down the wrong street where the offence occurred, apparently they didnt know the road they were on was called Lambton Quay, dumb farkers.
Good luck egtting off both Warrant and Rego though.

**beachbiker** · 29th July 2010, 14:46

Hi guys,

Wel i just came from town (central auckland). Was there to pick something up so I parked in a hidden carpark expecting no warden to be patrolling around there within the next ten mins so I didnt get a ticket. To my suprise I returned ten minutes later to find i had a ticket for $60!

Now I dont want to pay this as I didnt want to pay the $4 minimum to park there in the first place.

I was hoping you could give me some advice Jaykay?

I noticed you previously said "PS Wilson Parking and other similar tickets are still unenforceable and uncollectable, ignore them. They are an unsolicited invoice which can be safely filed in the bin - you will not be taken to court and it will not affect your credit rating."

Is this true as it is a wilson parking ticket? Also it was my partners car so I need to get it sorted. Dont know if it helps but on the ticket it states the car is "grey" when it is clearly black. Dont know if this will help.

Any thoughts on this matter are much appreciated/

Thanks

**Neshi** · 30th July 2010, 00:35

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

In Wellington, they passed a by-law specifically excluding the use of pay and display parks by bikes unless it is a single machine per bay (Which I don't know of any in Welly)

Originally Posted by Ratti

Does this mean that I can park in a PnD car spot and not have to pay?

Originally Posted by Jon Visser

No - the Bylaw (see 6.5 of http://wellington.govt.nz/plans/bylaws/traffic.html) states that motorcycles may not use P&D spaces at all.

I put it in between spots. I've even done it in front of the people that check the pay n display and they never said anything. Cars can still get in and out of their spots, and you can park freely.

[ carspot ]bike[ carspot ] but with the butt of the bike to the curb of course..

**Berries** · 30th July 2010, 08:36

Originally Posted by beachbiker

Wel i just came from town (central auckland). Was there to pick something up so I parked in a hidden carpark expecting no warden to be patrolling around there within the next ten mins so I didnt get a ticket. To my suprise I returned ten minutes later to find i had a ticket for $60! Now I dont want to pay this as I didnt want to pay the $4 minimum to park there in the first place.

Hang on. You parked a car in a parking space and purposefully didn't buy a ticket and expect to get off the fine for not purchasing said ticket ? How's that going to work then ? Good luck finding that loophole.

**spacemonkey** · 30th July 2010, 09:37

Originally Posted by Trudes

I had a jolly good e-mail fight with the wankers at Wilson Parking who ticketed my car while I was parked at the hospital. Aparantly I was 10 minutes over my time.... not that I ever recieved an actual ticket, first I heard of it was when I got a reminder that I had 21 days to pay it before they started charging me an extra $20 or something. So when I disputed it they had my number plate registered to a car that I don't and never have owned (personalised plate... they swapped an 0 for an O) when I queried that they then did what any dumbfuck can do and did a plate search and came up with our vehicle.... except that at the time the ticket was issued we hadn't bought that vehicle yet. So anyway I sent them e-mail messages every day for a month about this shit, they stopped replying to me and I figured I might as well just pay their stinking $40 ticket before it went up to $60 and I still got made to jump through hoops and get no explanation from them as to why they are such dumbarses who can't get a vehicle's registration details correct. Must be all the canibalism they do down there.
Anyway...... good luck with that.

You know it wouldn't surprise me if it were to show up on a Baycorp credit check..........Wilson are cunts like that.

**rastuscat** · 30th July 2010, 09:44

...............but the same old advice still applies.

Don't park illegally and you won't get a parking ticket.

Is there any part of this you want explained further? I've just read the post from beach biker, and can't believe the things people expect to be able to do with no consequences.

He wanted to save himself $4, then rants about how unfair the whole thing is. Tripe.

So there.

**Max Preload** · 30th July 2010, 14:06

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Don't park illegally and you won't get a parking ticket.

Patently untrue. I've had 'parking tickets' when I've been parked legally. I disputed them with copies of the relevant legislation and it still took a few letters ending with letters asking to be notified of the date of the defended hearing to get them dropped.

**rastuscat** · 30th July 2010, 16:15

Originally Posted by Max Preload

Patently untrue. I've had 'parking tickets' when I've been parked legally. I disputed them with copies of the relevant legislation and it still took a few letters ending with letters asking to be notified of the date of the defended hearing to get them dropped.

Go back and read the thread. Beachbiker admitted parking illegally, then bitched about getting a ticket.

I'm certainly not saying that the enforcement people never make mistakes, just that there are lots of people doing things they won't admit.

Maybe I should modify my advice. Don't break the law and it's most unlikely you'll get ticketed.

That better?

**Max Preload** · 30th July 2010, 17:59

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Go back and read the thread. Beachbiker admitted parking illegally, then bitched about getting a ticket.

You didn't quote anyone so your post was a clear statement, not directed at a particular event or post. I'm not going to waste my time guessing who or what you were directing a post at. You made a blanket statement: I refuted it.

Originally Posted by rastuscat

I'm certainly not saying that the enforcement people never make mistakes, just that there are lots of people doing things they won't admit.

Maybe I should modify my advice. Don't break the law and it's most unlikely you'll get ticketed.

That better?

It's better. But I still dispute your claim that it's unlikely. Almost half of my parking tickets have been successfully defended and I've yet to lose on one I have defended.

**spacemonkey** · 30th July 2010, 18:56

Originally Posted by Max Preload

I'm not going to waste my time guessing who or what you were directing a post at. You made a blanket statement: I refuted it.

And that was how it looked to me too.

**jaykay** · 6th August 2010, 15:49

Just to remind everyone that so called parking tickets issued by private companies are an invoice and do NOT need paying.

A private parking company (such as Wilson) cannot issue "fines", as they are not enforcers of the law. In theory they could take you to something like the disputes tribunal for damages to the car park or loss of income, trying to charge more than the original amount is not enforceable. ie they cannot make you pay.

In the unlikely event Wilson tried to take legal action, (which they won't), and you didn't turn up (which you would to claim damages from them), and they won (very difficult), you could apply for a rehearing. Do you think hey are going to spend time and money knowing they will never get anywhere?

Got delayed myself a few months ago at the local mall, and spent about 30 minutes in a ten minute slot. All correspondence has gone in the bin.

Do NOT ignore council or police tickets, legal or illegal. Personally I always go to court, had another speeding ticket dropped in Rangiora a couple of weeks ago, the police had almost everything wrong. And yes, I'm off to the High Court again for costs.

**Berries** · 8th August 2010, 07:24

If that is true, and I have no reason not to believe you, wouldn't it make more sense to keep quiet about it ? The only possible result will be that the parking company loses money due to nobody paying for tickets anymore so some legislation will be changed or introduced to close the loophole that was giving you free parking. Or they close the car park. Either way, you lose.