US bikes for sale

**98tls** · 8th August 2009, 23:38

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Better still leave it to the legitimate distributors who provide full and proper infrastructure and warranty backup.
If a warranty issue occurs with any of these bikes no Honda dealer in NZ will cover it, and nor should they.
Parrallell importing is parasitic.

Define parallel importing RT,not having a crack at your comments just dont see how theres anything wrong with what this blokes doing,buyer beware and at there on risk i guess,not my cup a tea but hey if they were would be hard to pass up if as quoted factory built bikes blah blah.Not that hard to give one its first or any other service in your own shed and all things considered its not like late model Jappas are unreliable eh.

**Assasin** · 9th August 2009, 08:26

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Better still leave it to the legitimate distributors who provide full and proper infrastructure and warranty backup.
If a warranty issue occurs with any of these bikes no Honda dealer in NZ will cover it, and nor should they.
Parrallell importing is parasitic.

The only parasites in the industry are the wholesalers "Not All But Most" that rip people off. And everybody knows it.

**krasher** · 9th August 2009, 09:25

I just saw some on special - not looking to undercut people over here or anything. About 3k US off retail price. Bringing a Fireblade 1000 '08 brand new down to 3.5KUSD+Shipping. I though I could probably make some coin and give somebody a pretty hot deal by bringing it over. It's just old stock. What other way do we get cheap old stock in NZ? The don't bring it over officially do they? We miss out on heaps of stuff over here cos we are small.

**barty5** · 9th August 2009, 09:47

Originally Posted by krasher

I just saw some on special - not looking to undercut people over here or anything. About 3k US off retail price. Bringing a Fireblade 1000 '08 brand new down to 3.5KUSD+Shipping. I though I could probably make some coin and give somebody a pretty hot deal by bringing it over. It's just old stock. What other way do we get cheap old stock in NZ? The don't bring it over officially do they? We miss out on heaps of stuff over here cos we are small.

Some thing that may be of interest i read a few years back that a lot of the jap road bikes are de tuned compared to what we get here and in aussie. Dont know what truth there is to it but that what the write up said.

**TK3** · 9th August 2009, 10:03

Originally Posted by krasher

Ok, I need to clarify obviously.

I have more details coming, but they had some good specials on the road bikes. Looks like the dirt bikes are similar prices.

The fireblades are new 08's and would need new reflectors and on road stuff sorted and are about 4k USD$ plus shipping plus some coin for me for mucking round with it. Seems pretty cheap to me.

Are they through a motorbike shop? Just be careful I looked doing the same thing about years ago but they were a set up no bikes, I went to the USA to pick them up and pay for them and never heard from the guy again.

**Robert Taylor** · 9th August 2009, 10:23

Originally Posted by Assasin

The only parasites in the industry are the wholesalers "Not All But Most" that rip people off. And everybody knows it.

So I take it then that you have worked for a motorcycle / accessory wholesaler and therefore are abundantly aware of the cost of such an operation and the cost of holding stock? Cost of infrastructure, cost of advertising etc.
I happen to know that at least one of the motorcycle distributors has run at a loss for at least the first 6 months of the year.
Sorry but your emotive statement smacks of ignorance of the realities.

**Robert Taylor** · 9th August 2009, 10:35

Originally Posted by 98tls

Define parallel importing RT,not having a crack at your comments just dont see how theres anything wrong with what this blokes doing,buyer beware and at there on risk i guess,not my cup a tea but hey if they were would be hard to pass up if as quoted factory built bikes blah blah.Not that hard to give one its first or any other service in your own shed and all things considered its not like late model Jappas are unreliable eh.

Among other things parallell importers are effectively subsidised by the advertising / market presence of the legitimate distributors. They pick the eyes out of what they percieve as being able to make a quick buck from and are not in a position where they carry a huge inventory of models, parts and backup infrastructure to service the market.
Tinsheds versus big holding warehouses.
I beg to differ about the reliability of Japanese bikes. One of the current 1000cc model bikes has an oil consumption issue that I dont believe is yet fully fixed. Its a long way to the US to get your bike fixed under warranty....
Parasites, most certainly YES.

**krasher** · 9th August 2009, 10:53

Originally Posted by TK3

Are they through a motorbike shop? Just be careful I looked doing the same thing about years ago but they were a set up no bikes, I went to the USA to pick them up and pay for them and never heard from the guy again.

Yeah, I actually met the guy, saw the bikes, visited the shop and he is looking into sorting shipping for me.

It's a risk - but $ v's risk payoff isn't bad. You could buy two at that price and still be ahead.

**Robert Taylor** · 9th August 2009, 13:08

Its kind of ironic that there is not a level playing field when it comes to dealing with the yanks. Bollocks Obama has recently introduced protectionist measures for his agricultural sector and that is really screwing our primary producers bigtime. But its okay for other sectors in the US to dump product here.
I am guessing that this ''part time'' importer does not have motorcycles as a primary source of income? If so then why is he doing this? Answer, to make a quick buck out of brazen self interest. And not having to provide any credible form of support structure.
The motorcycle industry here ( the legitimate full time one ) provides employment for thousands of people. In these times I would count retention of jobs uppermost, much more so than those picking the eyes out of it to suit their own pockets.
Fulltime legitimate importers do not so much have the luxury of choosing to import when the currency is strong as they are tied to the production schedules of the factories. Part timers will only do so when the currency is strong. Leaches.

**Tony.OK** · 9th August 2009, 13:30

The US Blades have a different ECU than ours, it has a built in retardation at 10k rpm I think, giving it upto 15 less hp than Euro models, alot of moaning went on from US buyers at the time. There is a quick fix made by Bazazz called a Z Bomb which gets rid of it.
They also don't have the HISS imobilser if I remember correctly.

**YellowDog** · 9th August 2009, 13:47

I bought my Tiger from LA. Kiwishipping.co.nz charged US$500 to bring it over.

The USA model Tiger has synchronous beams, so it is OK for left and right hand drive countries (you need to check).

BUT the NZ$ US$ was over 80c when I did it.

IMO - It's not worth it unless you are saving heaps, which I did

**Assasin** · 9th August 2009, 18:55

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

So I take it then that you have worked for a motorcycle / accessory wholesaler and therefore are abundantly aware of the cost of such an operation and the cost of holding stock? Cost of infrastructure, cost of advertising etc.
I happen to know that at least one of the motorcycle distributors has run at a loss for at least the first 6 months of the year.
Sorry but your emotive statement smacks of ignorance of the realities.

Blah Blah Your outfit is famous for shafting us bikers.