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[flyingcr250]

The politics of envy insinuates that all profit is filthy. Clearly there is scant understanding by many of what is involved to provide reputable infrastructure and the very cost of just keeping the doors open for business every day.
I have said it before and I will say it again, I object to fly by nighters who just grab the money and run.
No apologies for having a reasonable understanding of our base ( English )language and no intention to make debasing statements to anyone, it is individual choice to what level you wish to practice use of the language.
If a few readers of this post get the point of what I am saying ( they dont have to agree ) then my posts re this subject have been successful.
Clearly there are those of us who regard the welfare of NZ workers of higher importance than short term self gain. Its as simple as that.

what was this thread about again?? was it bikes or something??. thought this was kiwibiker not kiwi politics

[barty5]

it is unfortunate though that we the consumer pay for all these wankers you see at race tracks with support teams and really give not much back!

I guess this the part that most of us hate there we are spending shit loads on what these guys promote and they (selected few ) put stuff all back in to it hence i now have my own accounts with most of there suppliers. Not going to support them if they wont give something back.

[Reckless]

I just bought fox armour from the USA for 99.99USD = $148-00 NZD if you split the $50=00 freight over the four items I bought you add $12-00 so thats $160-00 NZD. Best quote here was $280-00 NZD special. God knows what the retail is poss $320-00??? Goods where here in 4 days!

Secondly just bought some Axo boots. Large Auckland retailer was selling for $499-99 retail, best deal I could get was $465-00. Found some on trade me in another bike shop selling for $300. Rang the guy and he looked up his purchase price, when I asked for his best deal, and he looked up his buy price on his computer and said I'm only making a little bit at $300 so can't include the freight! So he still had profit in the $300 price!

I can only estimate from the above boot exercise the retail markup on boots is $200 or so bucks on one pair of boots. The importer is probably making the same! I'd guess those boots cost no more than $100-150NZD to land here! If you want us to buy NZ fix this!

Very similar with the Fox Armour purchase!

So that's an overseas and NZ purchase all within the last month. I can only assume from the above scenario's that dock to retail margins in NZ are still very large.

I'll leave it to you if you think this fair or not.

PS I will support the NZ retailer if the price is fair or even a bit more but if I'm paying double or Near 100% more for the same goods for the sake of waiting 4 days, they can get stuffed!
I support my local Ktm dealer as much as I can and buy my tyres, parts and most accessories off him but the importer (in my opinion) is loosing him my business by making some items so expensive I have little choice but to go overseas! The $285-00 or more saved over only 2 purchases will pay for quite a few ride days for my children!!
My 2c I don't give a shit if its agreed with or not!!!

[telliman]

what was this thread about again?? was it bikes or something??. thought this was kiwibiker not kiwi politics

wat do you maen, this has everything to do with this thread!
are you trying to make it something else?

[Moki]

I just bought fox armour from the USA for 99.99USD = $148-00 NZD if you split the $50=00 freight over the four items I bought you add $12-00 so thats $160-00 NZD. Best quote here was $280-00 NZD special. God knows what the retail is poss $320-00??? Goods where here in 4 days!

Secondly just bought some Axo boots. Large Auckland retailer was selling for $499-99 retail, best deal I could get was $465-00. Found some on trade me in another bike shop selling for $300. Rang the guy and he looked up his purchase price, when I asked for his best deal, and he looked up his buy price on his computer and said I'm only making a little bit at $300 so can't include the freight! So he still had profit in the $300 price!

I can only estimate from the above boot exercise the retail markup on boots is $200 or so bucks on one pair of boots. The importer is probably making the same! I'd guess those boots cost no more than $100-150NZD to land here! If you want us to buy NZ fix this!

Very similar with the Fox Armour purchase!

So that's an overseas and NZ purchase all within the last month. I can only assume from the above scenario's that dock to retail margins in NZ are still very large.

I'll leave it to you if you think this fair or not.

PS I will support the NZ retailer if the price is fair or even a bit more but if I'm paying double or Near 100% more for the same goods for the sake of waiting 4 days, they can get stuffed!
I support my local Ktm dealer as much as I can and buy my tyres, parts and most accessories off him but the importer (in my opinion) is loosing him my business by making some items so expensive I have little choice but to go overseas! The $285-00 or more saved over only 2 purchases will pay for quite a few ride days for my children!!
My 2c I don't give a shit if its agreed with or not!!!

Agree. Husaberg spark plugs in NZ $26. In the US they're $5 (~NZ $7). Now, if only we could get tyres here for what they pay there!

[telliman]

I just bought fox armour from the USA for 99.99USD = $148-00 NZD if you split the $50=00 freight over the four items I bought you add $12-00 so thats $160-00 NZD. Best quote here was $280-00 NZD special. God knows what the retail is poss $320-00??? Goods where here in 4 days!

Secondly just bought some Axo boots. Large Auckland retailer was selling for $499-99 retail, best deal I could get was $465-00. Found some on trade me in another bike shop selling for $300. Rang the guy and he looked up his purchase price, when I asked for his best deal, and he looked up his buy price on his computer and said I'm only making a little bit at $300 so can't include the freight! So he still had profit in the $300 price!

I can only estimate from the above boot exercise the retail markup on boots is $200 or so bucks on one pair of boots. The importer is probably making the same! I'd guess those boots cost no more than $100-150NZD to land here! If you want us to buy NZ fix this!

Very similar with the Fox Armour purchase!

So that's an overseas and NZ purchase all within the last month. I can only assume from the above scenario's that dock to retail margins in NZ are still very large.

I'll leave it to you if you think this fair or not.

PS I will support the NZ retailer if the price is fair or even a bit more but if I'm paying double or Near 100% more for the same goods for the sake of waiting 4 days, they can get stuffed!
I support my local Ktm dealer as much as I can and buy my tyres, parts and most accessories off him but the importer (in my opinion) is loosing him my business by making some items so expensive I have little choice but to go overseas! The $285-00 or more saved over only 2 purchases will pay for quite a few ride days for my children!!
My 2c I don't give a shit if its agreed with or not!!!

and thats fair enough rick, but if you were the importer and bought in 300 pair of thos boots you'd want to cover you investment, you might not sell all of tose boots and then when the new model comes in you sell them at clearnce prices which you see alot of, remember you buying something you;ve never seen or checked and if there was a problem or a defect in those boots you cant just pop down your local and swap them for a new pair, it could take months of heart ake,your right we are being takin for a ride with the prices we pay but thats the same in everthing you buy as a comsumer in this part of the world! iv never owned brand new riding gear or bikes because they all just get abused anyway, the deals are out there!

[barty5]

I just bought fox armour from the USA for 99.99USD = $148-00 NZD if you split the $50=00 freight over the four items I bought you add $12-00 so thats $160-00 NZD. Best quote here was $280-00 NZD special. God knows what the retail is poss $320-00??? Goods where here in 4 days!

Secondly just bought some Axo boots. Large Auckland retailer was selling for $499-99 retail, best deal I could get was $465-00. Found some on trade me in another bike shop selling for $300. Rang the guy and he looked up his purchase price, when I asked for his best deal, and he looked up his buy price on his computer and said I'm only making a little bit at $300 so can't include the freight! So he still had profit in the $300 price!

I can only estimate from the above boot exercise the retail markup on boots is $200 or so bucks on one pair of boots. The importer is probably making the same! I'd guess those boots cost no more than $100-150NZD to land here! If you want us to buy NZ fix this!

Very similar with the Fox Armour purchase!

So that's an overseas and NZ purchase all within the last month. I can only assume from the above scenario's that dock to retail margins in NZ are still very large.

I'll leave it to you if you think this fair or not.

PS I will support the NZ retailer if the price is fair or even a bit more but if I'm paying double or Near 100% more for the same goods for the sake of waiting 4 days, they can get stuffed!
I support my local Ktm dealer as much as I can and buy my tyres, parts and most accessories off him but the importer (in my opinion) is loosing him my business by making some items so expensive I have little choice but to go overseas! The $285-00 or more saved over only 2 purchases will pay for quite a few ride days for my children!!
My 2c I don't give a shit if its agreed with or not!!!

Could be a bit like the wankers (bike shops as well) who sell CRF sparkplugs for $56 ok i get trade and they cost me $17 even ther retail is nothing like $56 and at $17 they make money so at $56 they are makin a good $40 a plug who is rippin who off.

To late now which Axo boots did you get out of interest

[Assasin]

Could be a bit like the wankers (bike shops as well) who sell CRF sparkplugs for $56 ok i get trade and they cost me $17 even ther retail is nothing like $56 and at $17 they make money so at $56 they are makin a good $40 a plug who is rippin who off.

To late now which Axo boots did you get out of interest

Do you find that some wholesalers are more money hungry than the others?

[A&R]

Got a love that both a mine where the same think i got 6 month very limited for both for the 11g they cost each hence i did look at the states to start but couldnt get fr8 sorted they where only 7g and the dollar was like 80c at the time

'bout the same time I was looking at thie allwheel drive christini's. They kept on offering me one for NZD$10,000 including importation. Should have took it up really. I note Cave Weta got one now and Dafydd? I must go and see what there like sometime.

[dafydd roberts]

'bout the same time I was looking at thie allwheel drive christini's. They kept on offering me one for NZD$10,000 including importation. Should have took it up really. I note Cave Weta got one now and Dafydd? I must go and see what there like sometime.

The ones that were going for $10,000 were x-demos if the same as we got offered had a few hours. Brand new you are looking at around $18,000 or $8000 for a kit, but there is a frame exchange that’s were the cost is involved.

If you want to see one in action you can find me most weekends at the wires

[barty5]

Do you find that some wholesalers are more money hungry than the others?

its not so must the wholesalers in most cases it more the retailers that just mark up to stupid amounts and the sad thing is those that dont know pay it.

[Assasin]

its not so must the wholesalers in most cases it more the retailers that just mark up to stupid amounts and the sad thing is those that dont know pay it.

But don’t the wholesalers control the RRP?

[barty5]

But don’t the wholesalers control the RRP?

no i can buy from them and sell it for what i want and i do

[scott411]

i should know better and stay out of this, but here is my 2 cents,

everything is cheaper in the USA, houses, food, , petrol, electronics and motor vehicles, there is going to be some bargins coming out of there because the recesson alot worse than us here, so a lot of shops are overstocked and in the shit,

as for bringing them in, i personally believe you should have to back up anything you bring in and sell, incl parts supply, but that time has gone and you can dump anything you want in this country, (chinese bikes are a prime example),

the motorcycle industry is made up of a whole lot of people that mostly still enjoy riding and promote and sponsor most events in nz, have a look at any trail ride or race poster at the sponsors and it is mostly made up of shops and accessory wholesalers, (have yet to see an overseas based company sponsor any local events here)

Barty, i don't see what the issue is with sponsoring race teams, if it was not for these company's guys like BT, Whibley and Birch would have had a shit load harder time taking the next step in racing overseas. Racing and promoting motorcycles have always gone hand in hand.

if you want year old gear there is a heap of specials to be had, esp at this time of year when the new gear is just about here, alot of guys on here deal with me and i normally have something to go,

Assassin, you seem like you have a couple of issues with a few people, can i ask what you do for a job?, do you think there is a problem with people making a profit in your industry as well?

[chop]

I just bought fox armour from the USA for 99.99USD = $148-00 NZD if you split the $50=00 freight over the four items I bought you add $12-00 so thats $160-00 NZD. Best quote here was $280-00 NZD special. God knows what the retail is poss $320-00??? Goods where here in 4 days!

Secondly just bought some Axo boots. Large Auckland retailer was selling for $499-99 retail, best deal I could get was $465-00. Found some on trade me in another bike shop selling for $300. Rang the guy and he looked up his purchase price, when I asked for his best deal, and he looked up his buy price on his computer and said I'm only making a little bit at $300 so can't include the freight! So he still had profit in the $300 price!

I can only estimate from the above boot exercise the retail markup on boots is $200 or so bucks on one pair of boots. The importer is probably making the same! I'd guess those boots cost no more than $100-150NZD to land here! If you want us to buy NZ fix this!

Very similar with the Fox Armour purchase!

So that's an overseas and NZ purchase all within the last month. I can only assume from the above scenario's that dock to retail margins in NZ are still very large.

I'll leave it to you if you think this fair or not.

PS I will support the NZ retailer if the price is fair or even a bit more but if I'm paying double or Near 100% more for the same goods for the sake of waiting 4 days, they can get stuffed!
I support my local Ktm dealer as much as I can and buy my tyres, parts and most accessories off him but the importer (in my opinion) is loosing him my business by making some items so expensive I have little choice but to go overseas! The $285-00 or more saved over only 2 purchases will pay for quite a few ride days for my children!!
My 2c I don't give a shit if its agreed with or not!!!

At $300 they ARE only making a LITTLE bit on those boots we talked about. At that sort of money there was nothing in it thats why i was supprised they were so cheap.