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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    Please define ''a bit more'' ???
    im meaning in the cases where we can get things for less than half what the local shops are selling it for by means of buying from another shop - also with overheads in a different city or country.

    and often you will hear those shops say 'shit thats less than we pay for it'.... well perhaps local shops could look into getting better suppliers if joe average can get better deals than them.

    i still agree that supporting your local is a good idea, but there comes a time when for financial reasons you just cant justify it. eg for me i dont shop at the local bike shops, as they have offered poor service and extremely high prices in comparison to mr motorcycles

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    Quote Originally Posted by B0000M View Post
    im meaning in the cases where we can get things for less than half what the local shops are selling it for by means of buying from another shop - also with overheads in a different city or country.

    and often you will hear those shops say 'shit thats less than we pay for it'.... well perhaps local shops could look into getting better suppliers if joe average can get better deals than them.

    i still agree that supporting your local is a good idea, but there comes a time when for financial reasons you just cant justify it. eg for me i dont shop at the local bike shops, as they have offered poor service and extremely high prices in comparison to mr motorcycles
    If it were really as simple as that.....If you owned a motorcycle shop you would have a much better appreciation of the complexities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    If it were really as simple as that.....If you owned a motorcycle shop you would have a much better appreciation of the complexities.
    I don't know what you sell and how you go about it; however you should by now know the profile of your potential clients.

    I would hope that they are not those who would prefer to save a few $ by importing, rather than enjoying personal and local services.

    Such people were never going to be your clients and I would suggest that you should stop concerning yourself. You are not loosing their business as they would not have ever bought from you at the NZ retail price.

    If you want to attract these sort of guys I suggest that you create a 'Value' line so at least they will be able to choose between value and quality. You probably do this already.

    I don't know your business and would not look to tell you how you should run it. The NZ retail marketplace is going through some quite dramatic changes. These changes have already occurred elsewhere in the world and you would do well to research such changes and look at how best to survive and benefit from these.

    I am highly aware of how tough it is being in business. If you stand still, you will dissapear. You need to be able to respond to and anticipate the market. Easier said than done however I wish the the best with your endeavours.

    EDIT: Just seen your signature. I have had exclusive distributorships before. My experience was that they can be overly restrictive.

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    And there lies the problem, with complexities comes costs. Make things simple and pass on the costs; thats what internet sellers have done.


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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    I don't know what you sell and how you go about it; however you should by now know the profile of your potential clients.

    I would hope that they are not those who would prefer to save a few $ by importing, rather than enjoying personal and local services.

    Such people were never going to be your clients and I would suggest that you should stop concerning yourself. You are not loosing their business as they would not have ever bought from you at the NZ retail price.

    If you want to attract these sort of guys I suggest that you create a 'Value' line so at least they will be able to choose between value and quality. You probably do this already.

    I don't know your business and would not look to tell you how you should run it. The NZ retail marketplace is going through some quite dramatic changes. These changes have already occurred elsewhere in the world and you would do well to research such changes and look at how best to survive and benefit from these.

    I am highly aware of how tough it is being in business. If you stand still, you will dissapear. You need to be able to respond to and anticipate the market. Easier said than done however I wish the the best with your endeavours.

    EDIT: Just seen your signature. I have had exclusive distributorships before. My experience was that they can be overly restrictive.
    I can assure you I am very attuned to what is happening. And in dealing with a complex product there are often complex solutions in deference to some of the blanket statements made.
    What I do find objectionable is the simplistic mindset of ''being a motorcycle dealer is a license to print money and they are ripping us off'' My posts have tried to illustrate that the reality is in fact quite different and that there are in fact two sides to the story.
    AND I WILL SAY IT HERE AND NOW, IF YOU FIND A VERY ATTRACTIVE PRICE OFFSHORE RE THE PRODUCT I PREDOMINANTLY SELL, LET ME KNOW AND I WILL SEE WHAT I CAN DO. Already of course we provide service and backup that an overseas seller or parallell importer cannot match. Parallell importers ( or those that aspire to be ) do not have direct access to the factory ( nor are they allowed it ) and are therefore not privy to the full amount of ongoing update information available. They only get filtered through a percentage of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    I can assure you I am very attuned to what is happening. And in dealing with a complex product there are often complex solutions in deference to some of the blanket statements made.
    What I do find objectionable is the simplistic mindset of ''being a motorcycle dealer is a license to print money and they are ripping us off'' My posts have tried to illustrate that the reality is in fact quite different and that there are in fact two sides to the story.
    AND I WILL SAY IT HERE AND NOW, IF YOU FIND A VERY ATTRACTIVE PRICE OFFSHORE RE THE PRODUCT I PREDOMINANTLY SELL, LET ME KNOW AND I WILL SEE WHAT I CAN DO. Already of course we provide service and backup that an overseas seller or parallell importer cannot match. Parallell importers ( or those that aspire to be ) do not have direct access to the factory ( nor are they allowed it ) and are therefore not privy to the full amount of ongoing update information available. They only get filtered through a percentage of it.

    Of course there are some things that you just can't get in NZ and if you want them via the correct channels the lead time is unrealistic.

    I must say that you appear to have a have a very realistic attitude. Most I have met don't and will not help.

    For large price sensitive deals I used to get my suppliers to get 'Special Bids' from the manufacturers to help match/beat imported prices.

    All I would say that anyone who did not go to you and ask for a better deal before importing would be a fool.

    As I have said many time, I would prefer to pay more in NZ to get the assurance of contact and service rather than take the chance on an import. This is my personal opinion. Many don't share it and seem content to spend $100 to save $110; with the courier companies being the main beneficiaries.

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    Usd

    Worth getting...?
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    ahhhhhhh, what model is it? ... 250, 450, X, R, 07, 08 ?
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    I'll have to double check. It was an 08 250R from memory.

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    looks like an 08 250r to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by krasher View Post
    Worth getting...?
    Well mate if you are spending that much money you should be able to do the math BUT

    5K USD is about 7400-00NZD plus GST = $8437-00NZD plus freight say $500-1000NZD plus any customs charges cleaning etc! Say $9500ish NZD. Very rough figures of coarse!!

    I'm not sure what they are worth here but for a grand or 2 extra, I'd definatly support the NZ retailer (bit different from my Armour etc where the savings where over 100%)

    Others may no the prices or CRF250r's for a better idea!
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    thats pretty much it. works out about the same price as buying one locally - but with a huge risk factor tacked on

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    Yeah, that's what I thought. Its the CBR1000 for 3.5k US that had my attention. They are dry so wouldn't need cleaning.

    The dirt bikes get no warranty anyway (not over there anyway). Well, hugely limited, so the risk isn't huge. Buying one is a risk period.

    What warranty do u get here on a brand spanking new dirt bike?

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    nah i was meaning the risk as in the risk that you pay the money and recieve a whole lot of no bike, or a different bike than pictured or something along those lines

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    Oh yep. I see.

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