WTF? C'mon...

**FlangMasterJ** · 7th August 2009, 18:45

Originally Posted by IIIRII

I was thining 09 KTM for $3500 ... then saw "chinese" ... shame it has KTM written all over it .....
piss pour IMHO ...
Callvote_kick ...

I think it says 'MTM'.

Still it's pretty piss poor.

**Pierce** · 7th August 2009, 19:13

Originally Posted by bogan

on closer inspection, it actually says MTM instead of KTM. And it has a linked shock, wtf, ktm are famous for the linkageless shocks and they couldnt even get that right! So its probly more the sellers fault rather than the chinese company, who just use very similar graphics and styling.

Yeah this is what I was thinking, It's labeled as an MTM so they would get away with it. At first glance it definately looks the part

**cheese** · 7th August 2009, 19:24

luxury exhaust on that sucker.

TM should be pulling that off. not allowed to sell copied goods.

**barty5** · 7th August 2009, 19:43

the add is headed as KTM i rang Yamaha nz when the guy was doing the copies they where most interested got a call back from them day or so later they had there lawyers make a call.

**courts** · 7th August 2009, 19:53

wonder if it makes the same sound of a beauty HUMMER when it goes squeak squeak bounce bounce rattle rattle down the trails.........wonder if anyone is dumb enough? theres plenty of people willing to buy chinese for a grand it would seem but mtm for3500........

**vr4king** · 7th August 2009, 20:23

Im gonna check this again in the morning,so i know if i spew again then its not just the booze but i think i know the answer

**Reckless** · 7th August 2009, 20:25

Originally Posted by barty5

the add is headed as KTM i rang Yamaha nz when the guy was doing the copies they where most interested got a call back from them day or so later they had there lawyers make a call.

Yeh mate but this one is styled so distinctly Ktm though. Like the copies of the Honda's where pretty standard trail bike design, but this?? The way the back guard wraps around the side panels etc Surely this design must be copy righted. Sooner or later they will go to far I reckon! I pity some poor beginner or newbie that gets fooled into buying this!

**Taz** · 7th August 2009, 20:26

It looks ok for the money. Would have to give it a good look to be sure but the price is right.

**cheese** · 7th August 2009, 21:07

Originally Posted by Reckless

Yeh mate but this one is styled so distinctly Ktm though. Like the copies of the Honda's where pretty standard trail bike design, but this?? The way the back guard wraps around the side panels etc Surely this design must be copy righted. Sooner or later they will go to far I reckon! I pity some poor beginner or newbie that gets fooled into buying this!

You have real trouble copyrighting a "look" or "style". Dad has has the same issues with new furniture he designs.

But copying KTM with MTM and making it look the same is grounds for an arse raping.

**laserracer** · 8th August 2009, 08:25

Hope some lawyers kick his butt sensless... sure if it was a different colour and he didnt call it a ktm that would be fine ... must piss off importers of real bikes when these clowns do shit like this

**B0000M** · 8th August 2009, 08:28

i dont see the big deal, i mean its clearly a piece of chinese shit, he even states that. yeah hes called it a ktm in the title, but surely thats not THAT important.

what is more of a concern is people that sell bikes and tell lies about the age of it - eg "its a 2007" when really its an 2004, that's something that is really easy to fool new riders and give them a sour taste in their mouth when they find out

**Rupe** · 8th August 2009, 08:43

Originally Posted by B0000M

i dont see the big deal, i mean its clearly a piece of chinese shit, he even states that. yeah hes called it a ktm in the title, but surely thats not THAT important.

what is more of a concern is people that sell bikes and tell lies about the age of it - eg "its a 2007" when really its an 2004, that's something that is really easy to fool new riders and give them a sour taste in their mouth when they find out

Bit like this http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-234874232.htm

**oldskool** · 8th August 2009, 08:43

Originally Posted by B0000M

i dont see the big deal, i mean its clearly a piece of chinese shit, he even states that. yeah hes called it a ktm in the title, but surely thats not THAT important.

what is more of a concern is people that sell bikes and tell lies about the age of it - eg "its a 2007" when really its an 2004, that's something that is really easy to fool new riders and give them a sour taste in their mouth when they find out

Both are plain wrong. False advertising. Enticed you to look at something you may have not wanted to look at. Tells you after the fact you were brought to look at it that it is similar and identical but not the same. How many times has a car dealer or real estate dealer told you something over the phone and when you get there it's not what you had asked for. But then you look anyway seeing as you are there.
How many times have you gone to an advertised sale in an electronics store and the last one was 'sold just 5 minutes ago' 20 minutes after the store opened. Traders like this guy need to be made an example of. Just plain wrong.