WTF, new rego costs!

[MDR2]

Yeah, but the car ACC Levy is currently $168.46 - car drivers would have their rego bill drop by that much. If they don't do many kms per year then they would spend less money then they do now. If they do a lot of kms then they will spend more, but that is fair. I also think that it is fair for the car drivers to pay for some of the motorcycle riders ACC costs due to some of the riders accidents being the fault of car drivers.

I also believe that charging ACC levies on the petrol would be a very simple way to do it - and that is definitely an important thing if the government wants to implement a change.

What about the car drivers not causing accidents?

I've never in my life caused a motorcyclist to injure themselves... excluding me of course

[MarkH]

What about the car drivers not causing accidents?

I think you may have misunderstood how ACC works - it is like insurance, everyone pays in and the unfortunate get paid out. I have never received ACC as a result of car driving or motorcycle riding and yet I have paid a lot of money in ACC levies over the last 26 years that I have had a license. I have never received ACC for a workplace accident or been paid ACC for income lost and yet ACC levies have been paid by my employers in the past and by me directly (self employed) over the last few years.

If they have to collect ACC to cover vehicle accidents then they should do it the fairest way possible - I think that is with a levy on fuel, not a levy on the vehicle rego. I currently have two rego bills in front of me, one is for a car that has done less than 1000 in the last year, I'll be selling the car rather than paying that.

[MDR2]

Yeah yeah, it was a tounge in cheek comment :P and working for ACC i thought i would have qualified as someone that knows how it works. (though im always learning)

I'm a little confused as to how you think a fuel levy would work though, are you proposing we ditch the rego fee and pay 10 bucks a litre for fuel? (this is a bogus figure plucked out of the air)

[heh I've had a few beers and wines tonight so you might have to spell it out ]

[scumdog]

Yeah yeah, it was a tounge in cheek comment :P and working for ACC i thought i would have qualified as someone that knows how it works. (though im always learning)

I'm a little confused as to how you think a fuel levy would work though, are you proposing we ditch the rego fee and pay 10 bucks a litre for fuel? (this is a bogus figure plucked out of the air)

[heh I've had a few beers and wines tonight so you might have to spell it out ]

Hell no, my 13mpg Yank-Tank that I drive modestly against a 95mpg scooter 'ridden' by a rope-head V-guzzling 16-year-old that screams the nuts off it everywhere?


I'd be subsidising the scooter ridder just a tad don't you think?.

[Pixie]

As a motorcyclist of some years I've been a recipient of ACC a couple of times. The last time was a little more serious than the last and without ACC I would have lost my home since I was unable to work for a number of months so I certainly don't have an issue with paying my bit. Those that say they never fall off so why should they pay should be so lucky. ACC is like insurance. We all hate paying it but when you need it you're fuck'n glad you did pay.

What I find wrong is the fact that owners of more than one vehicle get stung multiple times. Since I can only operate one vehicle at a time that is a little hard to swallow. It's a shame that a system where the owner is levied rather than the vehicle has not been worked out. That would be much fairer.

You're the kind of sucker ACC loves.
No ACC?Get personal insurance - it would cost less than $250+ for every vehicle you own.

[Pixie]

In one of the major cities Oz quite a few years ago, bikers protested by taking up car parking spaces in the CBD. I don't remember what the issue was but the authorities 'got the message' and backed down, $320 pa is just over the friggin top!!!

Kiwis will never protest.
What do you think they are ?French?

Just bend over like well trained sheep,spread your cheeks and pay $320 for the priviledge.

[ducatilover]

It is getting bloody ridiculous. I have to rego two cages and once I get another bike or two....

[MarkH]

I'm a little confused as to how you think a fuel levy would work though, are you proposing we ditch the rego fee and pay 10 bucks a litre for fuel? (this is a bogus figure plucked out of the air)

I would think that the ACC levy could be dropped from the rego fee - this would drop the rego for car or bike down to ~$60. I am not too sure how much more would be added to the petrol - maybe 20c or so. Even 25c more on petrol is only a 15% increase in the price. The government could call it a green tax and make like it is a Kyoto thing - then give the money to ACC.

Petrol would still be cheaper here than in the UK.

Note: added benefit - we could have Scumdog subsidise us whenever he uses his gas guzzler Yank-Tank!

[Max Preload]

...as the owner of two cars, and two streetbikes, id like to see some consideration for multiple vehicle owners.

Don't hold your breath. I simply make my own 'consideration'.

[mowgli]

What I find wrong is the fact that owners of more than one vehicle get stung multiple times. Since I can only operate one vehicle at a time that is a little hard to swallow. It's a shame that a system where the owner is levied rather than the vehicle has not been worked out. That would be much fairer.

You mean like attach it to your licence somehow? Renew all licences annually and pay the ACC levy at the same time. Wouldn't be any need to call on AA unless it was your turn to be tested. Could all be done over the interweb and the new licence sent in the mail.

Would be simple to police - valid licence equals levy paid. I wonder how the number of driver licences in regular use compares with the number of vehicles in regular use.

[MDR2]

Hell no, my 13mpg Yank-Tank that I drive modestly against a 95mpg scooter 'ridden' by a rope-head V-guzzling 16-year-old that screams the nuts off it everywhere?


I'd be subsidising the scooter ridder just a tad don't you think?.

I thought it sounded a silly idea too.