Law change - Daytime headlights and ban on handheld devices

[YellowDog]

If car drivers can't speak on the phone or send a text message whilst driving, does this mean that they will suddenly develop the ability to look left and right as well as over their shoulders before manouevring?

[Jizah]

flouros next, we can all look like hitcher then !

And flags too!

[sunhuntin]

Not sure why you would want them to turn their headlights off? Not attacking your statement, just seriously interested in why.

i think hitchers comment has something to do with the idea that car headlights being used during daylight make our lights less visible.

[MSTRS:Me]

Mully: My light is always on and it doesn't make me more visable.

yes it does

No. It doesn't. We've been through this a million times before.
If 'they' are not looking now, what makes you think a headlight on will make them look in future? There are very few bikes on the roads these days whose riders leave their light off, and the ISIDSY brigade make no distinction.
FWIW - I agree that lights should be on (for motorcycles) in the forlorn hope that it will make a difference, but don't expect that it will make me visible.

[Conquiztador]

And 20 demerits and $80 fine if you are caught doing the unforgivable!

[James Deuce]

Every accident I've had on a bike, my headlight has been on.

I've never had an accident while I've been riding around with my headlight off. Even at night.

[MSTRS:Me]

Correct SH. Lights on is supposed to make a vehicle more visible. For motorcycles that means a point of difference to cages. Debatable at best. If cages are on too, there goes any point of difference.

[Badjelly]

i think hitchers comment has something to do with the idea that car headlights being used during daylight make our lights less visible.

And that would bother the car drivers in question because...?

[sAsLEX]

and Rear Fog lights on eurotrash cars!? Turn the fuckin thing off !

[RantyDave]

Dumb law, because it's unenforceable.

Yebbut if J. Fuckwit esquire is involved in an accident of any description while talking on the phone they are now screwed. This will do for me

Dave

[James Deuce]

Yebbut if J. Fuckwit esquire is involved in an accident of any description while talking on the phone they are now screwed. This will do for me

Dave

You leave me out of this!

[RantyDave]

've never had an accident while I've been riding around with my headlight off. Even at night.

Now now MrD ... no picking on the hard of thinking.

Dave

[YellowDog]

Every accident I've had on a bike, my headlight has been on.

I've never had an accident while I've been riding around with my headlight off. Even at night.

For essential research purposes, perhaps we should all try the same?

[xgnr]

shit...maybe the stupid laws about extra riding lights being illegal might be re-thought.... ooooh what about making HID's legal??

nah

that would make us more visible...

Now you will have to prove you had your light on when the tosser crashes into you.

[BiK3RChiK]

A kneejerk political reaction. Dumb law, because it's unenforceable. If people are so stupid that they need a law to stop them doing something that logic and reason suggests they shouldn't be doing anyway, then we're doomed.

If having a law makes people sleep better at night, so be it. I guess now drivers can use their handhelds to dob in other drivers they see driving around using handhelds -- god forbid, they could even use the camera in their handheld to snap photos of offenders and then send those to *555.

Well, perhaps, but...................

...................a lot of people these days seem to be devoid of common sense.

I think it's a good thing, but just like any law, it'll be broken. At least now, if an accident is caused because someone is on their phone or texting, then the cops have another law to ping them on. Not that they didn't before!