cheers DD
(Definately Dodgy)
I have spent time on all three of the bikes you describe, so homework done.
You have taken what I said out of context too, I maintain that the VTR1000 firestorm is a sports tourer, and was marketed as such too. Was never meant to compete with the TL, S or R. That was down to the SP1, which is the better bike for my money.
What he said.
You're looking at a good bike for a great price (trade-in considered).
Thanks for all the comments and feedback.
Will keep this bike on my "very possible" list.
Unfortunately I can't afford the bike I want - Triumph Sprint - but I'll keep looking and if I can't find anything better than the VTR (deal-wise) then it's gonna be the way I go
Thanks again!
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Sorry but the VTR is a Sports Tourer, the SP1 and SP2 are the sports bike which are in a totally different league. There alot of things you can do to the VTR Firestorm to boost it performance and handling then and the become boarder line sports
The Storm is a brilliant bike for touring and I use to clock up some huge days on mine with no issues at all... But its not as quick as the TL or TLS which is more a sports category
Value for money the VTR is great, its a very forging bike, it will keep up with most of the sports in straight line (some of the pure hyper sports will show their colours here, but it does depend on how big that straight line is) and keep up with most through the twisties... I found it comfortable as a tourer as well... on the track there comes down to a bit of rider skill
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The ST4 is more for touring than sports but still a sports tourer, however the ST4s with the 996 and better shocks are still a sports tourer with the racing heritage starting to show
Mate, if you want a sprint, then look at the Blackbird. Not quite as flickable as the VTR (if you can call the vtr flickable), but a massive engine, just perfect for touring.
The VTR tends to run out of breath about 240k on the clock, or about 220k. The il4's will leave it for dead on the straights. But you'll keep up on the corners with most if your riding abilities are similar.
Also, it has the advantage of if/when you swap it for a ride with someone on a good sports bike you'll slaughter them, cause they'll shit themselves going into the first corner!![]()
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So tell me when you are touring where will you ever need to go at 240kph go on the open road... though saying that I did, get mine upto 260 (on the GPS) the back straights on most tracks are too short really to notice and VTR will keep up, if they were longer then yes, and a bit of rider skill helps as well.
Yes it is capable of of doing track days and a bit of fun, but is not a sports bike, but a good alrounder and bang for buck you can't complain...
People say they are uncomfortable, yet there are the same number saying they are great and comfortable... (I found the TL & SV bloody horrid, however I understood that it wasn't set up for me... and my riding style) Remember every on eis different, and you can play around with most things on th ebike to get it suited to you and your riding style, needs and wants. And the Test bike you ride won't be set up for you either...
I might be a girl with a car engine sounding GIXER (but that was before I put a new yoshi pipe on it and it sounds heaps gruntier) - but I also have a v-twin too - a SV650 with a yoshi pipe - sounds better than a VTR anyday of the week - so stick that in your pipe and smoke it!![]()
You could pick up a Aprilia RSV for around 8-10k even a standard model would show up a TL / VTR
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Hence the VTR is a Sports-Tourer, not Hyper Sports, or even classed as a sports bikeit never has been and never will be one...
The VTR is the best of both worlds, not the fastest, but a lot faster than many, comfortable but not an arm chair, not quickest through the twisties, but definitely not not the slowest. Its a fun bike and a good all rounder.
Its quick off the mark and fun through the mid range and yes around 240-250 it may flattens out... but you can have the thing loaded with your gear and it will happily still get up to that speed... though again means you are in touring mode so why would you...
Most tracks back straight aren't that long and you hyper sports bikes are going to get to much of an edge there...
If the OP wants a bike purely for the track then yes the VTR can do that but, it will show its touring heritage and won't be as competitive unless money spent on it... If he wants a bike to take to the track on a fun day, do some touring, even communting, having a play on Macraes Flat twisties and then middlemarch sweepers, VTR will met those needs...
I am not say it is the bike he should get, nor am I say he should get something else, just saying what the VTR is.
However as one reads more and more of KB... all you lot want is more power and speed in a straight line... which any one can do
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