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    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    Perhaps that's part of the problem - putting resources in the wrong place, as I have previously suggested

    You really do struggle to understand or think outside of your retarded brain don't you
    If you could follow a conversation with out arguing purely because you have a built in arrogance that drives you to refute at all cost - rather than having a conversation with out abusing people (thanks for the red reps, how long did it take to give out all the other reps so you could give me more red?)

    But you did get something right;
    i think all the terms you describe, adequately sum up your behaviour since being slapped on the wrist !!!

    ahahahahhaha


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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post

    As to experts, a Police Sergeant who was at the time on traffic duties, so I will consider him an "expert", pointed out on KB that it is not the law that gives you 200m to slow down inside a speed limit sign, it's just something the Police observe.
    I have seen the written instruction from the topcop (Northern district?) that up to 200m inside a 100/50kph zone change is to be considered a discretionary zone for ticketing. I have never seen or heard of any of the other policing areas having adopted the same policy, and nor do they utilise it. Just ask hXc.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Thumbs down There you go ......

    Quote Originally Posted by boomer View Post
    i think all the terms you describe, adequately sum up your behaviour since being slapped on the wrist !!!

    ahahahahhaha
    So because I got a ticket for such an evil careless, irresponsible act of accelerating toward the open road limit 200 meters to early - I shouldn't have any opinion on how our constabulary should behave or conduct themselves in the execution of the law? And if I post about my thoughts on KB then I'm moaning? and should be abused by you in hidden red reps because you think I should fuck off and keep my mouth shut?

    I am disappointed because I got fined - disappointed mainly because I haven't been able to get organised enough to have kept my WOF up to date, and the fact I stupidly thought that the cop wouldn't bother about someone accelerating up to the open road speed limit (won't assume that again).

    But I do have relevant and legitimate opinions and questions about Police priorities, quota driven policing, and the fact that at the same time they are crying out for more resources - I am not going to accept your barraging and belittling just because I happen to think you're wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    He gave me the ticket for no WOF $200 regardless of the fact it was only two weeks out and I had it booked in, it just so happens I know about the 14 days you have to get it done. It's actually part of the law.
    The police have tried to change it, (under John Banks) but failed to get political support for it.
    It's the same as if you get caught for not having your license on you, they may fine you but you actually have 7 days (I think it's 7 days) in which to present at your local police station with it. Cops don't tell you that though do they
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Preload View Post
    You'd be completely wrong on both counts. There's no automatic compliance grace period for either. In fact, I can't think of a single motor vehicle or drivers licence offence that does have such a grace period for remittance of the penalty.
    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    You're wrong
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Preload View Post
    Nope.

    Requirement for driver to be licensed and produce that license without delay.
    Offence for failure to do so.

    Requirement for display of evidence of inspection.
    Offence for failure to do so.


    You'll note there is no mention anywhere of your RIGHT to any cancellation of the infringement offence if the licence is produced or the vehicle brought into compliance.

    Over to you.
    I'm not seeing anything in the form of actual evidence or even a reply posted here - just your insistent claim that I'm wrong. Your claim of the existiance of some "Road Compliance Scheme" in my 'reputation' is just wishful thinking on your part. Police and other issuing enforcement authorites have the authority to cancel the infringement offence notice if they feel circumstances warrant (pun intended) it, but you have no right of cancellation of the infringement fee simply for bringing the vehicle into compliance or producing your license other than at the time.

    Don't get me wrong - it's extremely anal on their part to enforce it when it's such a short period out of 'compliance' and a simple mistake by overlooking it on your part could have been made - it's not like it was 2 months out.

    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    It's interesting how many people think they are 'experts' on this subject - when they know nothing about it
    Pot/kettle much?
    If it wasn't for a concise set of rules, we might have to resort to common sense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    So because I got a ticket for such an evil careless, irresponsible act of accelerating toward the open road limit 200 meters to early - I shouldn't have any opinion on how our constabulary should behave or conduct themselves in the execution of the law? And if I post about my thoughts on KB then I'm moaning? and should be abused by you in hidden red reps because you think I should fuck off and keep my mouth shut?

    I am disappointed because I got fined - disappointed mainly because I haven't been able to get organised enough to have kept my WOF up to date, and the fact I stupidly thought that the cop wouldn't bother about someone accelerating up to the open road speed limit (won't assume that again).

    But I do have relevant and legitimate opinions and questions about Police priorities, quota driven policing, and the fact that at the same time they are crying out for more resources - I am not going to accept your barraging and belittling just because I happen to think you're wrong

    You don't agree with me - who cares, get on with life ya goose
    Well here's the NEWS FLASH !

    Moaning on KB wont get you anywhere... GO PROTEST IN WELLINGTON or put a petition together....



    fark man seriously.. who needs to get a life?


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    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    No - not strange
    He gave me the ticket for no WOF $200 regardless of the fact it was only two weeks out and I had it booked in, it just so happens I know about the 14 days you have to get it done. It's actually part of the law.
    The police have tried to change it, (under John Banks) but failed to get political support for it.
    It's the same as if you get caught for not having your license on you, they may fine you but you actually have 7 days (I think it's 7 days) in which to present at your local police station with it. Cops don't tell you that though do they

    Quotas and revenue gathering behavior has been exposed several times now in the media, and the police have had to own up to it
    Sorry mate but unless you can point to the legislation that says otherwise, I call you're wrong.

    There is a 7 day legislative grace for your licence label. There is not one for a WOF.

    Also, you DON"T have 7 days to produce your licence, the offence (like the WOF/Rego one) is complete on the day - you MUST produce your licence without delay, and you MUST display a current WOF and Reg (as long as the rego is not expired by more than 7 days)

    And who books in a WOF these days? You'll need pretty good proof of the booking for the WOF ticket to be pulled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Preload View Post
    I'm not seeing anything in the form of actual evidence or even a reply posted here - just your insistent claim that I'm wrong. Your claim of the existiance of some "Road Compliance Scheme" in my 'reputation' is just wishful thinking on your part. Police and other issuing enforcement authorites have the authority to cancel the infringement offence notice if they feel circumstances warrant (pun intended) it, but you have no right of cancellation of the infringement fee simply for bringing the vehicle into compliance or producing your license other than at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boomer View Post
    Well here's the NEWS FLASH !

    Moaning on KB wont get you anywhere... GO PROTEST IN WELLINGTON or put a petition together....
    So the whole idea of a discussion forum escapes you?

    Quote Originally Posted by boomer View Post
    You think once caught he should have also let you off... with ya out of date WOF and so called speeding


    WE UNDERSTAND.....!

    Understand we're sick of people moaning about it on KB !
    See this is where you keep on telling me you get my point - but you obviously don't;

    I don't think he should've let me off anything
    And and I have said all a long the WOF was a fair enough cop
    And I haven't moaned about it

    Most people are sick of dumb nuts like your self, acting all self-righteous
    Who just want to abuse and argue rather than making any meaningful points or discussing the issue with any intelligence
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    You haven't offered any counter to it - you just keep stating the obviouse - which I don't disagree with!!!
    Ok, I must be retarded too. The point you say you're trying to make, is fuckin round about to get to, from the story you tell.

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    Stop moaning smoky if you dont speed you dont get a fine.

    200m 100m 50m 2m it doesn't matter the section of road you found yourself on had a speed limit that you broke. You know have to pay for it.

    The road is not a race track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    see the cop on the other side of the road, check the speedo - 80ish Klm/Hr

    I thought I'd be ok, being so close to the open road sign and all, but no
    Perhaps this is the problem right here?

    Not so much that you were speeding, but the fact that you saw the cop and made no adjustment to your speed, blatently ignoring the law!

    If I was the cop, I'd view that as to a degree. Can the cop really ignore that?
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    most cops are wankers and i think its because know one likes them they are just after your money
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    What on earth does the cop think he's achieving? Policing people 200 meters away from an open road sign and a piece of road with no real dangers or hazards?
    I guess it's not what you do in your time thats worthy of a criminal offense. It's weather or not you are lucky enough to get caught breaking the law.

    I have not time for the pigs there is no second chances. Especially when they accuse you of speeding because the car was making alot of noise when coming up the road. But i was not speeding officer the C.V. joints need doing on the car.
    and they wonder why people don't like them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoky View Post
    your wrong
    Nope. You're a fucking idiot, mate. You just keep regurgitating bullshit you believe without anything to support it. Next you'll be claiming the Easter Bunny is real.

    Put up or shut up.
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    Thumbs down i lawled !

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Preload View Post
    You're a fuckig idiot, mate.
    You're Wrong !


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