Moped thingy

**Squid** · 15th August 2009, 19:29

I have tried searching but alas the wonders of the KB search function are lacking.

The question is: What do you call a pushbike with a engine on it (>50cc)

According to some its a moped isnt that a scooter???

So lets just say moped = scooter. What do I call the motor-pushcycle and more importantly, will I need to register it? (keeping in mind under 50cc and 2kW power)

attached is something like what I've got in mind

**SMOKEU** · 15th August 2009, 19:32

Legally it is a moped and needs to be registered as such, and it must comply with all the relevant laws which are applicable to mopeds in the year in which it was first manufactured.

**Squid** · 15th August 2009, 19:34

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

Legally it is a moped and needs to be registered as such, and it must comply with all the relevant laws which are applicable to mopeds in the year in which it was first manufactured.

Lights, indicators, brakelights etc etc. Bugger that. So I just need to find a really old pushbike and use that as the year of manufacture...

**James Deuce** · 15th August 2009, 21:27

Since when do you need indicators and brake lights for a warrant?

**humphrt** · 15th August 2009, 23:57

Since when do you need indicators and brake lights for a warrant?

Mopeds dont require a WOF

**EJK** · 16th August 2009, 00:04

I don't see people having a rego plate on those.

**Nagash** · 16th August 2009, 00:12

I would love to see someone getting pulled over on bicycle...

Take photos!

**Squid** · 16th August 2009, 00:32

Originally Posted by EJK

I don't see people having a rego plate on those.

Nor me! Might just wander down to the cop shop on day and ask. Or just make one, ride it about the place and see what happens

Originally Posted by Nagash

I would love to see someone getting pulled over on bicycle...

Take photos!

Bro it really sucks!!! I was just innocently riding down the footpath at night. ok so I was praticing my wheelie-ing with no lights or helmet.. The nice offisher did tell me to take the ticket in with recipets to get off though

**roadracingoldfart** · 18th August 2009, 07:17

Originally Posted by Squid

The question is: What do you call a pushbike with a engine on it (>50cc)

According to some its a moped isnt that a scooter???

I think its deemed a "power cycle".
no specific licence to ride , must wear a helmet.

**KrazyGixxerBoy** · 19th August 2009, 09:26

I've always called them mopeds (e.g. MOtor and PEDal). Pretty sure they don't need a WOF but unsure on licencing. I know you can ride a 50cc scooter on a learners car licence but unsure on a moped.
Good luckl, let us know how you get on.

**bogan** · 19th August 2009, 09:44

Interesting question, I suspect itll be classed as a moped (same as 50cc scooter), as the regulations for moped dont give any frame type (i have a sportsbike registered as a moped). Though you might want to look into mobility scooter regulations as well. Being classed as a moped may also mean you cant ride in the cycle lanes.

**Squid** · 19th August 2009, 13:05

Originally Posted by roadracingoldfart

I think its deemed a "power cycle".
no specific licence to ride , must wear a helmet.

Yeah I just got an email back from LTSA this morning, basically it needs to be under 300 W of power* (so a large egg beater is out), have pedals that are capable of powering the bike without the engine and just usual pushbike stuff.

*Im not sure what the chances of getting dyno tested on the side of the road are though....

**Squid** · 19th August 2009, 16:44

Right I have found a old 2-stroke weedeater on trademe so depending on what it'll cost me to get sent down to dunedin I'll buy it. Then comes the part of trying to get it to fit.... If it ends up going ahead I start a build thread and put some photos up. Tell your friends

**marty** · 19th August 2009, 16:57

One of the guys at work also has the e-mail from LTSA. If it can be pedalled with the engine shut off, and is under 300watts - it does not need a rego or WOF (or indeed, a licence of any kind to ride it - perfect for disqualified drivers/riders). He has a 70cc kit on his - it cruises at 65-70km/h - would go faster if it was on a cruiser-type bike (lower c of g and less wind resistance) and had taller gearing.

The 50cc uses 1 litre of 2-stroke gas/100kms. the 70 chews through 1 litre in 90kms.

if you are thinking of the Motrax (or similar) kit though, be prepared to strip it before running it, as the build quality is pretty average. there is a big range or after market bits for them though.

And you want a bike with disc brakes - not old school v brakes