Owner roasts family pet in barbecue

[peasea]

Exactly this is the western world.

Exactly, and eating dog is usually a last resort in the Western World.

It always fascinates me how immigrants are happy to foist their traditions onto us yet it doesn't seem to work the other way. For example: Try riding a Harley through downtown Tehran with a topless chick on the back while she's furiously waving a crucifix about, screaming "Jesus is Lord!" and see how far that gets you.

[Indiana_Jones]

Exactly, and eating dog is usually a last resort in the Western World.

It always fascinates me how immigrants are happy to foist their traditions onto us yet it doesn't seem to work the other way. For example: Try riding a Harley through downtown Tehran with a topless chick on the back while she's furiously waving a crucifix about, screaming "Jesus is Lord!" and see how far that gets you.

When should I book our flight?

-Indy

[ManDownUnder]

It always fascinates me how immigrants are happy to foist their traditions onto us yet it doesn't seem to work the other way. For example: Try riding a Harley through downtown Tehran with a topless chick on the back while she's furiously waving a crucifix about, screaming "Jesus is Lord!" and see how far that gets you.

If it wasn't against the law I'd expect social shock, a case being dragged to court to be tested against the laws of the land and an outcome remarkably similar to the one we have here.

And just to clarify, the species of animal doesn't automatically make it "pet" or "food".

BINGO!

A great example. Raise a lamb in the back yard, have the neighbours and their kids feed it, play with it, get to know it... then after it's grown a bit kill it, roast it up and rock on up to their doorsteps with a lovely aromatic fresh roast leg of lamb.

Nose says YUM! Brain says CRY!!!!!!!!

Of course the level of emotional attachment we have for any given animal or whatever species is going to affect our reaction to it being killed, then eaten.

In NZ dogs are assumed to be pets, therefore loved. How can you kill and eat something you love?

It seems that in Tonga there are ocassions where dogs are akin to lambs in NZ.

[Katman]

I've stayed out of this argument till now because I can see it from both points of view - I have hand raised sheep that have ended up in my freezer.

What concerns me is, if the eating of dog was to become seen as acceptable it would not be long before other peoples family pets went 'missing in action' simply because there would be a market for it - even if it was only ever a blackmarket. (Whoops - no pun intended).

If Tongans feel the need to eat dog they should fuck off back to Tonga to do it.

[imdying]

Firstly, if you think the only reason they dress the way they do is because of "fairy tales" they believe, why don't you look at yourself (unless you are neked)?

I'm dressed the way I am because it was cold enough here that we had to scrape ice off the window this morning

Secondly, why do you even try to ignore the difference between dressing for a culture, which is considered acceptable here, and cooking up an animal that has an unofficial sacred status in NZ?

Sacred? Mutts? Are you high? That's the point... not everyone thinks that they way they dress is acceptable, and not everybody thinks that eating dogs is unacceptable. Who are you to say either way??

Defenders say "it is part of their culture", thus acceptable for them... Well, it's part of most NZ cultures (the "kiwi culture" if you can summarize it) to treat dogs specifically as pets, and its usually unacceptable to harm them let alone eat them, so isn't it acceptable for NZ cultures to say NO?

New Zealand is an immigrant country, our culture is not fixed in stone, it simply has to be amorphous in nature.

If we're going to accept a diverse variety of immigrants, it's not unreasonable for us to accept that they will be bringing a diverse range of cultural behaviour with them. Good on them for adding a little colour to this little back water The only way you'll stop immigrants from bringing their customs with them is to stop them coming into the country.

[Katman]

The only way you'll stop immigrants from bringing their customs with them is to stop them coming into the country.

Now there's an idea.

[imdying]

Now there's an idea.

It would have been an idea 160 years ago, would have fixed a lot of problems before they started.

[Ixion]

Since when did dogs classify as pets?

By my reckoning dogs are working animals. Like horses. We don't eat horses either. Same reason

Makes evolutionary sense, eat your working animals and you are soon going to be in the shit.

[boomer]

Now there's an idea.

It would have been an idea 160 years ago, would have fixed a lot of problems before they started.

And now we see all the red necks come out of the wood work!


WHO THE FOOK ARE YOU TO SAY WHO CAN AND CANT GO AND LIVE IN ANY PART OF THE WORLD...!!??!!


i dont see ANY fookin indigenous species from this island... so banjo players unite should fookin tread wearily...!

[Katman]

WHO THE FOOK ARE YOU TO SAY WHO CAN AND CANT GO AND LIVE IN ANY PART OF THE WORLD...!!??!!

It's all right boomer - I don't mean the Poms.

You did bring us fish and chips, after all.

[imdying]

It's all right boomer - I don't mean the Poms.

You did bring us fish and chips, after all.

Not me, that's exactly who I meant. If they hadn't have been able to bring their culture, we wouldn't even have this precious 'Kiwi culture' that apparently says Tongans can't eat dogs in New Zealand if they feel like it.

[boomer]

Not me, that's exactly who I meant. If they hadn't have been able to bring their culture, we wouldn't even have this precious 'Kiwi culture' that apparently says Tongans can't eat dogs in New Zealand if they feel like it.

well in that case.. i'll get my brothers to pack up there suit cases and we'll be on the next flight out of here.

bye

[Katman]

And where do we draw the line in accepting other peoples cultures?

Should we be allowed to stone adulterers to death?

Should we embrace the idea of 12 year old girls being married?

Should we welcome the idea of binding young girls feet?

[ManDownUnder]

And where do we draw the line in accepting other peoples cultures?

We stop when it breaks our laws.

Should we be allowed to stone adulterers to death?

if that's the punishment in the statutes... yes

Should we embrace the idea of 12 girls being married?

...see above...

[duckonin]

Tongans and their culture are welcome in Waihi, they would do a better job of dog control (barking Bastards cook em all) than the idgits running noise control for the Council....