Rich families rort the system -FFS!

**Hitcher** · 18th August 2009, 17:10

Originally Posted by Supermac Jr

This is greed at its best

I would contend that it is merely a case of enterprising people exploiting dumb law.

I am constantly surprised by how long it takes for governments to close off loopholes in legislation. It's our taxpayer dollars that are being inappropriately spent through such inattention to detail, which is what really pains me.

Don't forget that it was a policy objective of the last (Bloody Labour) government to make everybody in New Zealand a beneficiary of some sort.

**short-circuit** · 18th August 2009, 17:11

Originally Posted by Hitcher

I would contend that it is merely a case of enterprising people exploiting dumb law.

I am constantly surprised by how long it takes for governments to close off loopholes in legislation. It's our taxpayer dollars that are being inappropriately spent through such inattention to detail, which is what really pains me.

Don't forget that it was a policy objective of the last (Bloody Labour) government to make everybody in New Zealand a beneficiary of some sort.

Does that mean you think these people are to be admired Hitcher?

**The Stranger:Me** · 18th August 2009, 17:17

Originally Posted by MotoGirl

the people concerned just structured their income in a way that benefits them. And what they have done is legal. It's just sound business acumen? Would you not take something if you were entitled to it?

No I wouldn't.
This is NOT a victimless "crime" it's pure self centered greed.

**short-circuit** · 18th August 2009, 17:28

Originally Posted by The Stranger

No I wouldn't.
This is NOT a victimless "crime" it's pure self centered greed.

Exactly. It might not be illegal but it is clearly wrong.

My question earlier wasn't answered so I'll try again: Why is it that the people on this forum who are consistent hand wringing about beneficiaries burdening the system (read them) seem to approve of this kind of "enterprise"

**wbks** · 18th August 2009, 17:44

KULAKS! KULAKs! *hang them

**short-circuit** · 18th August 2009, 18:27

Originally Posted by wbks

KULAKS! KULAKs! *hang them

At least someones prepared to show that thats about the size of it. Hypocrisy of worst kind.

**StoneY** · 18th August 2009, 18:29

Originally Posted by The Stranger

No I wouldn't.
This is NOT a victimless "crime" it's pure self centered greed.

I totally agree -and I already know we often do not- but this time we are as one in opinion my StrangE friend

**slofox** · 18th August 2009, 18:29

Originally Posted by The Stranger

This is NOT a victimless "crime" it's pure self centered greed.

Bit like MP's perks really, innit..?

**Pedrostt500** · 18th August 2009, 18:34

I'm no accountancy boffin but how would an accross the board tax rate ie 20% as a number out of the air, every private person, busness or corperation operating in the boarders of NZ pay the same rate of Tax, no refunds. ditch GST, cut out all the other funny little Taxes, if you earn a dollar 20 cents is tax, the other 80cents to do what you want with.

**Hitcher** · 18th August 2009, 18:41

Originally Posted by short-circuit

Does that mean you think these people are to be admired Hitcher?

Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

**short-circuit** · 18th August 2009, 18:41

Originally Posted by Pedrostt500

I'm no accountancy boffin but how would an accross the board tax rate ie 20% as a number out of the air, every private person, busness or corperation operating in the boarders of NZ pay the same rate of Tax, no refunds. ditch GST, cut out all the other funny little Taxes, if you earn a dollar 20 cents is tax, the other 80cents to do what you want with.

Start a new thread on it. But with a policy like that you'd be right of the Nazi party. Maybe ACT would take you?

Perhaps you would enjoy living in a third world country with widespread poverty/crime, and a lack of any kind of public health, education or any sort of social services - who knows?

**short-circuit** · 18th August 2009, 18:46

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

So I take it you don't want to give me a straight answer then?

**Hitcher** · 18th August 2009, 18:47

Originally Posted by short-circuit

So I take it you don't want to give me a straight answer then?

I'd me delighted, if you asked me a straight question. If you persist in trying to put words in my mouth, I may be forced to respond with a gratuitous and demeaning ad hominem.

**2_SL0** · 18th August 2009, 18:48

Originally Posted by Hitcher

I would contend that it is merely a case of enterprising people exploiting dumb law.

I am constantly surprised by how long it takes for governments to close off loopholes in legislation. It's our taxpayer dollars that are being inappropriately spent through such inattention to detail, which is what really pains me.

Don't forget that it was a policy objective of the last (Bloody Labour) government to make everybody in New Zealand a beneficiary of some sort.

They have to be careful which loop holes they close off, they may do themselves out of an income via exploitation themselves.