Cutting the road toll

[dpex]

Here we go again with the next round of 'mostly' brainless schemes for reducing the road toll....beating up on young drivers, beating up on boy-racers, always two favourites for those with jelly-fish brains.

Bikes will have to have headlights on! Woo! Now there's a novel idea. Surely, those who haven't figured that out yet deserve to be removed from the gene pool.

Reversing the ridiculous left-turn rule (another idea thought up by the jelly-fish brains) is about the only sensible change being made.

The JF brains can think in only one direction. Legislate to restrict, and punish to enforce.

For those of you who have or have had kids, you will know that getting little Billy to tidy his room is almost impossible when you say "Do it or you'll get," pick an evil to befall little Billy. Tell the kid he'll get a free pass to his favourite thing and the room will be like an operating theatre in minutes.

Seems to me the punishment regime and evermore restrictive laws don't work....and that's presuming the current road-toll can be meaningfully reduced beyond the random factor of pure bad luck...and I'm not sure that's a possibility.

The trouble with traffic enforcement is, it's all enforcement...presuming there is a cop somewhere around... But cops don't avert accidents, they simply issue tickets for behaviour which 'might' cause an accident, or turn up after the event to issue tickets to those who have crashed.

Have you ever noticed that there is no reward for being a crash-free driver?

Like at the recent court case at Huntly, where I demonstrated the radar picked up a following truck, not me, and had the dopey JP tell me she didn't understand the math or the science therefore "Guilty as charged! Hang Him!"

When I pointed out I hadn't had a speeding ticket in 30 years, did that get me any cred? Nup. "Guilty! Hang Him". That alone caused me to rethink my preparedness to be an otherwise law abiding citizen. Why bother. I'm treated no differently from a complete rogue.

Long ago, when the donkey was the favourite form of transport, the smart riders knew how to get the donkey to move forward. It's called carrot and stick. Traffic law enforcement is all stick and no carrot.

Yeah I know. I just need a hug. Mumble.

[F5 Dave]

Well the road toll is terrible, let's have more speed cameras. What? - the road toll has gone up? Obviously we need more cameras still.

When something is not working best we redouble our efforts.

[Stormer]

Why not go the other way, and like INCREASE the speed limits.
120k or whatever on the open road, and concentrating on the SLOW drivers...the ones that get you so pissed off that you end up taking a risky shot just to get past the ignorant dicks.
With the "road toll" so high, and obviously nothing else working, it has to be worth a go.

[ynot slow]

Educate the drivers,not by stupid tv adds(I chanel surf during adds)which aren't viewed by the target audience.Make defensive driving more affordable so they know how to drive.

And teach the students a license is a priveledge not a god given right.

Why drop the under 20yr alcohol limit to zero,why not all people,and this coming from a DIC charged driver 10years ago.

[slofox]

Seems to me the punishment regime and evermore restrictive laws don't work....

Any behaviourist will tell you how much easier it is to train with positive reinforcement than with negative reinforcement...

[AllanB]

Easy fix


Post one of these every few 100 meters - speeding problem fixed and lower unemployment figures for young people.

[idb]

Well...I personally agree with all safety measures that don't directly affect me...hammer the yungins I say!!!

[2wheeldrifter]

Easy fix


Post one of these every few 100 meters - speeding problem fixed and lower unemployment figures for young people.

Like that idea... better still how about every 20k's you have a rest area with a nice lady like that offering you a...... cup of tea say

[quickbuck]

Easy fix


Post one of these every few 100 meters -

What?
A Scented Candle on an iron table???

[Boob Johnson]

Here's another novel idea...........how bout actually TEACHING people to ride/drive properly as part of the license obtaining process. The gubbermint could make more revenue out of the process as well, create employement, geez it aint rocket science!!! Prevent them from harming themselves in the first place & remove that fucking ambulance away from the bottom of that cliff


A bit wild n crazy I know, but hell, it might just work

[oldrider]

Here we go again with the next round of 'mostly' brainless schemes for reducing the road toll....beating up on young drivers, beating up on boy-racers, always two favourites for those with jelly-fish brains.

Bikes will have to have headlights on! Woo! Now there's a novel idea. Surely, those who haven't figured that out yet deserve to be removed from the gene pool.

Reversing the ridiculous left-turn rule (another idea thought up by the jelly-fish brains) is about the only sensible change being made.

The JF brains can think in only one direction. Legislate to restrict, and punish to enforce.

For those of you who have or have had kids, you will know that getting little Billy to tidy his room is almost impossible when you say "Do it or you'll get," pick an evil to befall little Billy. Tell the kid he'll get a free pass to his favourite thing and the room will be like an operating theatre in minutes.

Seems to me the punishment regime and evermore restrictive laws don't work....and that's presuming the current road-toll can be meaningfully reduced beyond the random factor of pure bad luck...and I'm not sure that's a possibility.

The trouble with traffic enforcement is, it's all enforcement...presuming there is a cop somewhere around... But cops don't avert accidents, they simply issue tickets for behaviour which 'might' cause an accident, or turn up after the event to issue tickets to those who have crashed.

Have you ever noticed that there is no reward for being a crash-free driver?

Like at the recent court case at Huntly, where I demonstrated the radar picked up a following truck, not me, and had the dopey JP tell me she didn't understand the math or the science therefore "Guilty as charged! Hang Him!"

When I pointed out I hadn't had a speeding ticket in 30 years, did that get me any cred? Nup. "Guilty! Hang Him". That alone caused me to rethink my preparedness to be an otherwise law abiding citizen. Why bother. I'm treated no differently from a complete rogue.

Long ago, when the donkey was the favourite form of transport, the smart riders knew how to get the donkey to move forward. It's called carrot and stick. Traffic law enforcement is all stick and no carrot.

Yeah I know. I just need a hug. Mumble.

I agree with you, why should all the young drivers or would be drivers who are both competent and well behaved, be punished because of the behaviour of the minority!

The test should be for driving competence, knowledge of the road rules/code and demonstrated quality of behaviour!

Age should really be of minimal consideration!

This is the reason that undesirable behaviour is increasing in the population, there is no recognition for anything else but "undesirable" behaviour!

I think the bastards are barking mad! Why do so many (otherwise) honest citizens break and disregard the road laws?

[MarkyMark]

Well they're at it, how about they bloody let people turning left treat a red light as a stop sign already?

[MaxB]

The solutions are there all around the world plain as day. Countries with high levels of driver training, good quality roads and hard to pass driving tests have the safest roads.

E.g. Germany, Scandinavia, Britain, Switzerland plus thay all have higher speed limits than us and are much safer.

Good road systems plus properly trained drivers equal safe roads.

[SPman]

How can they come up with the right answers, when they aren't asking the right questions? Like all beauracrats, they are locked in a mindset that was left behind 40 yrs ago and are incapable of thinking beyond their narrow focused mindset.
Age should not be a requirement for getting a license - ability and mindset should be.

[chef]

im sure if they looked at accident records its not just the young ones. pointless making the age 17 for learners and making them be a learning for 1 year. there still imature at 17 as they were 15.... ban all cars all buses eather catch a train or ride a bike simple as that.....