Boy racer protest

[wbks]

responsibility....
natural order

Elaborate...

[Laava]

Well that's your opinion, but personally I think that seeing as it is a social problem, society needs to work on it, rather than giving the govt. an even brighter green light to act as Stalinistic as they like before it causes them too much trouble

What is your bright idea for sorting it out then? I suppose boyracers would want their own racetrack provided for them? Any ideas?

[carver]

Elaborate...

http://www.libertarianz.org.nz/

[wbks]

What is your bright idea for sorting it out then? I suppose boyracers would want their own racetrack provided for them? Any ideas?

You are pretty ignorant to the "problem", aren't you? They don't want a race track and they don't want a designated area to "do skids in" like all of the other detached do gooders keep suggesting because they're from the "car culture". Do I really need to explain? My "bright idea" is certainly not adding more and more laws to the nanny state, it sure as hell hasn't worked out too well for drink driving, underage drinking or child abuse.

[wbks]

http://www.libertarianz.org.nz/

Great, a free market society, that'll change the whole world economically...
But I guess I could sure go for reducing government influence

[Quasievil]

All you see from giving a govt. more power is more corruption, and no change to the problem. So I advocate social change for a problem one perceives. Most of the time societies don't have their voice administered via law which is then administered by the current government... Politicians share their voice through law. A lot of the time, I mean, not for every example you can think of (I know someone was looking for an example to pull out of their pocket to prove me wrong before reading this last sentence).

yes to most of that, I agree, but traffic issues ? I dunno law is about it

[tri boy]

Fair bit of town bound traffic on Te Kowhai Rd tonight.
Looking forward to hearing the distant squeal of doughnuts and burnouts on the Boulevard acess rd at 12pm again. (I'm about 2kms from it, and it's rather a pleasant sound, the sickening sound of car slamming into armco on the T intersection of Te Kowhai-Ruffels road, and the sirens of ambulance and emergency services I can do without. fast corner that brings many unstuck)

Fingers crossed for a good, but uneventful protest.

[wbks]

yes to most of that, I agree, but traffic issues ? I dunno law is about it

Isn't the ability to have a go at people for driving in a group a little more than an "traffic issue"? The US "patriot act" springs to mind. They even bust chicken fighting rings with that beauty of a law, but hey, they must have been Al Qaeda Roosters!

[Laava]

You are pretty ignorant to the "problem", aren't you? They don't want a race track and they don't want a designated area to "do skids in" like all of the other detached do gooders keep suggesting because they're from the "car culture". Do I really need to explain? My "bright idea" is certainly not adding more and more laws to the nanny state, it sure as hell hasn't worked out too well for drink driving, underage drinking or child abuse.

No, no I'm not ignorant to the problem. But I am interested to hear what you think should be done, your words; "Society needs to work on it" Aren't they doing that already? What do you think society should do? Any ideas?

[wbks]

No, no I'm not ignorant to the problem. But I am interested to hear what you think should be done, your words; "Society needs to work on it" Aren't they doing that already? What do you think society should do? Any ideas?

What I think society should do? Well it isn't limited to "boy racers", more complete. It would earn me either a nutjob rep or site dreamer status to go on about it, though. So I'll just answer "Aren't they doing that already?" with: Society is dealing with this problem by pushing for more laws? That's not quite what I was meaning...

EDIT: I didn't mean to have a go at you when I called you ignorant, I was just saying that even though so many people out in the real world, and in here on this site are saying that it is more of a socializing thing for people to do, which it is, people still say "oh but they cant drive for shit cant they see that" and "why dont they just go to the racetrack" or even "give them a safe environment to play in".

[Grahameeboy]

Sorry but that is bollocks! The minority are the ones that don't break the law not the other way around. The ones that don't break the law should have nothing to worry about!

And of course being bikers we always obey the Law...

[Ixion]

All you see from giving a govt. more power is more corruption, and no change to the problem. So I advocate social change for a problem one perceives. ....

I am still uncomvinced that there really is a "problem".

Certainly, some young men do things that are a pain in the neck for other people. But,firstly young men have ALWAYS done things that are a a pain to other people. I remember a certain young antisocial irresponsible hoon disturbing the neighbourhood half a century ago with his Jawa 350cc two stroke running open pipes. Dunno who he was or what happened to him

And a lot of the 'antisocial' behaviour is really just part of the give and take that we must accept as part of living in cities with millions of people jammed in together.

Young hoons doing wheelies at night , disturbing my sleep. Yes, they do them in the car park down the road. I curse them and wish all manner of evil on them. And then the next morning the elderly neighbour gets his motormower out at 6am. I curse him too and wish him all manner of evil. Does he never sleep?

And I am sure he wishes ME all manner of evil and curses me when I blast up and down our long shared drive on an only faintly baffled two smoker. Well, I have to set the carbs somehow !

For that percentage of youff that really does go over the top (and I think it a small percentage) there are many laws available already and cops very happy to enforce them. If they spread diesel on the roads (but I see more diesel spread by SUVs and trucks than boy racers) throw the book at them. But the point is , that there IS already a book to be thrown.

The majority of the youff being talked of here are NOT doing anything particularly terrible. Just hanging round with mates , being obnoxious, strutting their stuff, showing off to the chicks. It's a ritual as old as mankind.

I suspect a lot of the hatred (I do not think the word is too strong) of boyracers has a much more subtle cause.

A car is regarded (rightly or wrongly) in our society as one of the trappings of virility. The old males see younger ones with fast fancy cars and feel their masculine supremecy is somehow threatened.

Note how many people focus on the idea that youff should only have SLOW cars. "Not as powerful or fast as mine, eh".

Live and let live. It's all just a part of lifes rich tapestry

[wbks]

Hey, man, I don't think there is a "boy racer" problem, I was speaking in a broader sense of handing more power to the fat controller! Hence my term "a problem one perceives", not "the boy racer problem"

[koba]

no cruzer has a loud exhaust...
no cruzer defecates in public...
no cruzer leaves bottles , fast food wrappers and yellow puddles in public places
no cruzer stays up late on saturday night coz they all have bible class in the morning
praise the lord for cruzers......

Just Harleys or do japper versions count too?

[Quasievil]

I am still uncomvinced that there really is a "problem".


Live and let live. It's all just a part of lifes rich tapestry

Come for a ride down te rapa straight mate and see how stable your bike is on the diesel that resides there every sat and sun am.............then tell us the same again