Xt660z tenere

[cave weta]

To late, bought a KTM 990 ADV which replaced my XRV750. Both good bikes. The XT looks good but would have looked nicer with upside down forks.

hey ive got an XLV750... what is anXRV ?

Edit:just googled and see its the africa Twin.

[.chris]

I was looking forward to this bike, but against the KTM690 Enduro its

heavy

overpriced

a bit ugly...

a 690 adventure would be better.

I am not so sure about that, the seat on the tenere looks mighty comfortable and I bet it has a wider ratio gearbox.

I see the tenere as a more road orientated adv bike, the 690 more trail.
It is all about what you are going to do with it.

If the tenere had been available when I was buying it would have been on the short list.

[carver]

I am not so sure about that, the seat on the tenere looks mighty comfortable and I bet it has a wider ratio gearbox.

I see the tenere as a more road orientated adv bike, the 690 more trail.
It is all about what you are going to do with it.

If the tenere had been available when I was buying it would have been on the short list.

true true, but if your keen on road work, the KLR is a tarted up road bike.

the transalp would be a better bet being a twin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYrv-MhvTwc

and its only a thou more!

[marks]

Where does the WR fit in. Most of your pics are either DT or KLR. Do you do serious motocrossy stuff with the WR?

Generally the WR gets used whenever I go for a trail ride with my boy(s) in the Mungatooks. Don't normally take many photos cause a) you've seen it all before and b) we tend to ride in fairly dark single track and the photos don't often come out well.

From all I've read (read mind you not ridden) I thought most trail bikes 250 or 450 were pretty usable until the throttle hand gets itchy.

usable - yes - happy - no - not until the pace is upped a bit and the suspension starts to work the way it was meant to.

[warewolf]

From all I've read (read mind you not ridden) I thought most trail bikes 250 or 450 were pretty usable until the throttle hand gets itchy.

Depends on quite how you define 'trail' bikes, I guess from your context you are talking about modern enduro bikes?

The 450s are much gruntier which makes them more forgiving/relaxing to ride, but then the extra grunt beats you up. The 250s can be thrashed all day, likely travelling faster, and you won't be completely and utterly knackered before the day is out. When the WR250F was released, a huge percentage of riders I spoke to had traded in their WR450F and LOVED the smaller engined bike, for the aforementioned reasons. Most reckoned they were faster with less effort than on the bigger bike.

When it comes to having fun, I've discovered the truth in the saying, "it is more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow."

[Padmei]

And it's more fun to pick up a fat bike slowly than a lite bike.... no wait...

[cooneyr]

...When it comes to having fun, I've discovered the truth in the saying, "it is more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow."

Aint that the truth. I'm having heaps of fun thrashing the XLR125 around town. I'm learning how to wheely and jump over speed humps, trying to get a peg down and other hooligan antics Also I get to use all five gears where as I have to get off the throttle in first to maintain legal speeds and travel in 3rd on the KTM - 80 comes up very fast in first

Cheers R

[bart]

Yeah, I always had more fun on my ZXR750 than the ZX9R.

[Fluffy Cat]

Popped into Filco Nelson today and had a look at two in the flesh. One had the panniers and they look good for two grand.
They look good and better the closer you get. Good attention to detail, nice finish. About the same seat height as the 990 ADV.
If this had been in NZ 9 months ago it would have been close between this and the 990 for looks. For me the 990 wins on the vee twin lc8 motor and top notch WP suspension. But it would have been close. I still have my original XT600 tenere from 1986/87. Top bike.
The new one felt quite nimble and had a nice seat which would be an improvement on the old one. Could have gone for a test ride....naahh dangerous to the bank account.
If you are looking for an ADV this could be the one, then again the new Super Tenere is taking shape as we speak....though it seems to be a shaft drive.

[Woodman]

yep, had a look at them today as well, they sure are pretty, but they would need to perform very well for the money they are asking, and looks aren't everything.

[Eddieb]

Are these things only good for 40,000km before a big rebuild? Doesn't seem right.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-291592240.htm

Has done 42 000km but just had new
piston, rings and cylinder re-sleve, so
will be good for another 40 000km.

[Padmei]

Sounds like te owner doesn't want to stump up for the repair bill

[Taz]

Maybe it was still on it's original oil it came from the factory with and the owner mistook 40000km valve check for 40000km oil change? I would have thought these had a nikosil type cylinder coating. If they did and they've now machined that out and fitted a sleeve then you probably can only expect 40,000 before it requires another rebore/piston.

[clint640]

Are these things only good for 40,000km before a big rebuild? Doesn't seem right.

Unreliable jap POS. Can't beat that KTM reliability I reckon. I'm going to give the 640 a rebuild at 100 000 km if it needs it or not.

Clint

[warewolf]

Interesting. In years gone by, the Euro stuff was lighter, higher performance and feature rich but a bit temperamental and/or fragile. Over the last 15 years the Euros have made their stuff reliable without sacrificing any of the good points. At the same time, the japs have improved the performance and features of their bikes so that on the spec sheet they look a lot more like the Euros. But the question is, at what cost? Jap bikes just don't seem anywhere near as reliable or robust as they used to. Talking to ppl in the trade, they just shake their head at the quality of the jap stuff these days.

Very broadly speaking, that is.

[Edit: Euros except BMW. They seem hell-bent on going the lighter-and-less-durable route, too, but I guess they had plenty of margin in that area.]