Buell voted best handling...again.

[Drew]

What it means to me is a kind of confirmation that Erik's theory of centrailised mass works.

The amount of manufacturers that are slinging the muffler underneath the vehicle now is also is a pointer.

a number of manfs have started relocating where the fuel is kept too - lower down and more central.

Dunno about this.

The most capable bikes on the planet are motoGP bikes, and none of this mass centralisation is going on there.

[Big Dave]

Dunno about this.

The most capable bikes on the planet are motoGP bikes, and none of this mass centralisation is going on there.

They don't have large, heavy mufflers - and the 'fuel tank' on lots of bikes has become the air box.

[Drew]

They don't have large, heavy mufflers - and the 'fuel tank' on lots of bikes has become the air box.

There is still more gains in having pipes tuned to length, and made from decent materials, than there is in mounting something under the bike.

To say that chucking the pipe underneath is good, because the ER650 has it, might be a stretch. Suzuki did it on the K6 600/750, but have given the idea up now. Why is that I wonder?

I'll say it again though.

There's nothing wrong with the Buell, they are great fun and good looking bikes.

[Big Dave]

There is still more gains in having pipes tuned to length, and made from decent materials,

At significantly higher cost.

To say that chucking the pipe underneath is good, because the ER650 has it, might be a stretch. Suzuki did it on the K6 600/750, but have given the idea up now. Why is that I wonder?
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Look at more new bikes and what the manuf have been doing with them over the last three years. They have mostly got smaller, lower and closer to the middle.

[scumdog]

Look at more new bikes and what the manuf have been doing with them over the last three years. They have mostly got smaller, lower and closer to the middle.

Sorta like HD have been doing for yonks?

(OK, they may not be light in some cases)

[dipshit]

and the 'fuel tank' on lots of bikes has become the air box.

That's for hp reasons. Placement and size of air box is very important.

I still think Buell are a quarter of a century behind the times. Honda were doing their low mass centralisation back in the 80's. The Japs have been there and done that.

And recently Gardner started telling these stories to the press...

[Swoop]

us Bull riders like what we ride

Cattle?

[Buellistic]

Meh - I'm a bit of a grandad anyway, and I'll pull to the left to let the bikes in a real hurry pass - it's better than some arse bandit kissing your rear tyre on a public road.

I do the same as you Allan, I pull to the left and let bikes pass me, I'm not the fastest rider out there and I don't like holding other riders up and I like riding on my own and at my own pace anyway.

Oh yeah, I love my Buell 1125CR, it's my third Buell too, it doesn't make any difference to me if other people don't like them.
They do handle very well and are fun to ride and I like how the weight is down low.
There has been a couple of times when I thought I was going a bit too quick for a corner and I just lean a bit more and hang on and don't touch the brakes and I have come through OK, I feel I have lost some of my confidence over the years so I am doing the Stay Upright Advanced course next Friday, the last time I did Stay Upright was 1983 so I'm sure it will give me a boost in my confidence and my abilities.

[Big Dave]

Sorta like HD have been doing for yonks?

(OK, they may not be light in some cases)

Triumph have been doing it since 1967
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2669/...d93e0028_b.jpg

[Drew]

Triumph have been doing it since 1967
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2669/...d93e0028_b.jpg

Only so it'd burn some of the oil that dripped out.

[Big Dave]

I had an oil in the frame bonneville. Oil filler cap was just in front of the fuel cap. Tres handy.

[Brian d marge]

Mass centralisation is the concept of getting the heavy stuff ( everything if its possible to be on the same panes as the crankshaft rotational axis

off the top off head

I ve got plunger suspension ,..... turning is a new concept !

Stephen