Forking hell...

**Moki** · 15th August 2009, 16:33

Right.

KLR650.

RaceTech Emulators - or - Ricor Intiminators?

What say everyone?

**tri boy** · 15th August 2009, 16:37

Go where you get after sales service related to the product.MHO

**Padmei** · 15th August 2009, 19:36

Did you read the thread re the Ricor AIS rear shock? They were talking about the differences somewhere in the middle of the 19 pages of posts.

**NordieBoy** · 15th August 2009, 23:52

Intiminators rule...

Can't wait to see what the DR version of the shock will be like...

**Moki** · 16th August 2009, 06:46

Originally Posted by tri boy

Go where you get after sales service related to the product.MHO

The glossy brochures for both they are the best thing next to sliced bread. They look to be exactly the same thing.

**NordieBoy** · 16th August 2009, 08:41

Originally Posted by Moki

The glossy brochures for both they are the best thing next to sliced bread. They look to be exactly the same thing.

The Intiminator is the next generation of Emulator. The emulator works on flow rate. Once the forks are compressing fast enough the adjustable poppet valve opens softening the damping. Whereas with the intiminator's inertia valve it can differentiate between chassis and wheel movement. Chassis induced movement eg brake dive are heaivly damped but if the wheel moves toward the bars the inertia valve lags behind the movement reducing the amount of damping thus making the front supple over bumps and the sharper edged and harder hit the more you notice the effect. The most obvious advantage of this is when braking heavily on a rocky downhill where the forks are still held high in the stroke but are still able to respond to the rocks with softer damping. With emulators you've still got all the brake dive and associated issues. Although pre-loading the front becomes an issue for an intiminatored bike.

I could go on and may if provoked

**Padmei** · 16th August 2009, 09:37

PLease do Nordie. so you have intimators not emulators? IS the DR shock you mention is the ricor one yet to be in production for bikes other than the mighty KLR?

**marks** · 16th August 2009, 10:25

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

The most obvious advantage of this is when braking heavily on a rocky downhill where the forks are still held high in the stroke but are still able to respond to the rocks with softer damping. With emulators you've still got all the brake dive and associated issues. Although pre-loading the front becomes an issue for an intiminatored bike.

I could go on and may if provoked

my klr (and presumably all others?) had chronic brake dive - it was really noticeable during hard braking in the twisties. This has totally gone once I fitted the iniminators.

I had to shorten my spring spacers 15mm to stop the ride feeling a bit harsh - is that what you mean about 'pre-loading' Nordie?

**NordieBoy** · 16th August 2009, 10:43

Originally Posted by marks

I had to shorten my spring spacers 15mm to stop the ride feeling a bit harsh - is that what you mean about 'pre-loading' Nordie?

Not that pre-loading.

Bouncing the front before adding power to get the front up type pre-loading...

I was running 15mm of spring pre-load with the stock DR springs and 5mm with the Eibach springs.

**NordieBoy** · 16th August 2009, 10:56

Originally Posted by Padmei

PLease do Nordie. so you have intimators not emulators? IS the DR shock you mention is the ricor one yet to be in production for bikes other than the mighty KLR?

Yep. Intiminators.

I don't even know if they're working on a DR shock.
But...
Someone did ask Mr Ricor about shocks a while ago and he clammed up and said we needed to talk to to Brian

Mr Ricor rides a DR650 though so I didn't think it'd be long before something was available...

**Moki** · 16th August 2009, 20:20

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

The Intiminator is the next generation of Emulator. The emulator works on flow rate. Once the forks are compressing fast enough the adjustable poppet valve opens softening the damping. Whereas with the intiminator's inertia valve it can differentiate between chassis and wheel movement. Chassis induced movement eg brake dive are heaivly damped but if the wheel moves toward the bars the inertia valve lags behind the movement reducing the amount of damping thus making the front supple over bumps and the sharper edged and harder hit the more you notice the effect. The most obvious advantage of this is when braking heavily on a rocky downhill where the forks are still held high in the stroke but are still able to respond to the rocks with softer damping. With emulators you've still got all the brake dive and associated issues. Although pre-loading the front becomes an issue for an intiminatored bike.

I could go on and may if provoked

Cheers for explaining that. I know Marks rates 'em....just wanted some more opinions on them -for or against- before I order some in. Nice 50% discount going at the mo.

-Karl

**Moki** · 1st September 2009, 18:10

Ordered up some Intiminators today. Not bad, just under 300 kiwi bucks landed.

**NordieBoy** · 1st September 2009, 18:31

You'll hate them. They're terrible.

**Padmei** · 1st September 2009, 21:16

How could you go & order intimators & not get the rear as well? I can't look at the website at the mo as I get all twitchy & feverish. Interested to know how you find them.

**Moki** · 2nd September 2009, 06:23

Originally Posted by Padmei

How could you go & order intimators & not get the rear as well? I can't look at the website at the mo as I get all twitchy & feverish. Interested to know how you find them.

Yeah I know, I know...... I'm planning on probably getting a Moab for the rear, but wait for dear old mum to smuggle it into the country when she pops by in Dec. I'll see if she can smuggle a seat in as well...and may be a half dozen set of Mefos...etc etc etc. Besides, I don't yet have financial approval for the rear. I'm working on it though

I'm not entirely convince about the new Riccor rear. Have they started shipping yet? Anyone have any experience with this yet?