Suzuki SV1000S vs Honda VTR1000

[dangerous]

SV) Being a FI bike its smooth and with good old suzuki gear box that smooth as.
VTR) It feels torque then than the sv, but with the carb motor its not as smooth as the sv, and the gear box is a little clunky

This being so..... then how come some people call the VTR boring over the SV, sorry still dont get it.

BTW agree with the quotes above


Differances with the series1 v series2 VTR are:
-body markings
-paint colours (03-colour matched belly pan, and engine casings gold)
-radiator, fork, wheel, disc colours
-smaller indercators
-didgy dash
-HISS
-tank 3L larger
-clipons 15mm taller & 6* less rake

[campbellluke]

I have taken a 2001 VTR for a ride.

I was told that the fuel consumption sucks, sometimes getting less than a 200km range for it's tiny 16 litre tank.

I think that the ones 2003 onwards have slightly better fuel economy and 19 litre fuel tank.

Very very nice bike. It is morealess impossible to hold 50-60 kmph in 6th gear. Even with minimal throttle it will try to go 70+ in 6th. I found that I tended to ride around built up areas in 3rd.

Something like 3500 rpm at 100 kmph, with insane twin torque. I can't wait to sell my 250

If you buy an older one, make sure that the regulator has been upgraded. Because the one that came stock on older models was 2nd standard. I remember about hearing about the majority of Aussie vtr owners having problems with that part screwing up.

Sadly, I have never ridden a SV1000s

[ajturbo]

1st of all aj.... no jap bike has 'soul'
Now I dont understand how you find a 48mm carbed V2 'boring' as I said above heaps a down load snot (the SV will not lift frount at as a low rpm) every time a coconut the VTR will loft at 3k...... then a bit mild in the mid rpm's then a rush as the carbs dump every thing in the pots at about 6k... power wheelie time.

The SV is injected revs out another 1k it is bland right from 1k to red line...... it does however pulls evenly right through the rev range more like a common muilty. The SV has no sudden get up and go like the VTR, this is why I think the SV is the more boring.

all right rub my nose in it.... i ain't a reporter.....
the 2 bikes i took out felt that way to ME... remember i have a turbo.and even a late model 250 has MORE power than the 650..(power/weight ratio)

i'm not into pulling wheelies..... the thought of doing that gives me the shits....

oh woops.. just noticed.. you are talking about a SV..... i was talking about a TL......

but like i said this is MY view only.. if i were you take em both out...PLUS a duc.... and a 4 cylinder bike....

[Zapf]

which one has the better suspension?

[dangerous]

all right rub my nose in it.... i ain't a reporter.....
the 2 bikes i took out felt that way to ME... remember i have a turbo.and even a late model 250 has MORE power than the 650..(power/weight ratio)

i'm not into pulling wheelies..... the thought of doing that gives me the shits....

oh woops.. just noticed.. you are talking about a SV..... i was talking about a TL......

but like i said this is MY view only.. if i were you take em both out...PLUS a duc.... and a 4 cylinder bike....

Mate I wasent rubing ya nose in anything aye...... The SV and TL are 2 differant anamals even the 1st TL had more powerthan the 2nd TL and Suzuki still kept dropping the hp on them in the SV engine.

Now a TL v VTR...... yeah the TL is a ball, forget the VTR, UNTILL you want to cover some distance then the VTR is once again the better bike IMHO.

ps: aj turbos rock..... every bike should have one been there done that too remember

[dangerous]

which one has the better suspension?

How'd I know thats what you were going to ask....... neither to be honest, the series1 VTR had shit frount n rear but in the series2 VTR the frount was up graded..... but still like a 4x2 showa in the rear.
I however have managed to set mine up how I like it which is too hard for a avarage Joe.

The SV650 from what I have heard you and otheres say is suckymoto.... however the SV1000 has a very good frount end but the back lacks a bit, having said that I reckon get a good frount end set up and 80% of the battle is won.

[ajturbo]

How'd I know thats what you were going to ask....... neither to be honest, the series1 VTR had shit frount n rear but in the series2 VTR the frount was up graded..... but still like a 4x2 showa in the rear.
I however have managed to set mine up how I like it which is too hard for a avarage Joe.

The SV650 from what I have heard you and otheres say is suckymoto.... however the SV1000 has a very good frount end but the back lacks a bit, having said that I reckon get a good frount end set up and 80% of the battle is won.

the sv650..... front end..??? frosty let me take out his one around taupo..(well i was on the bike and moving when he yells out..WTF?? lol)

i'm no racer..(yet ) and i was a bit concered about going into the hair pin........... but every where else mmmmmm

[dangerous]

the sv650..... front end..??? frosty let me take out his one around taupo..(well i was on the bike and moving when he yells out..WTF?? lol)

i'm no racer..(yet ) and i was a bit concered about going into the hair pin........... but every where else mmmmmm

So you are saying the SV650 frount end is sweet? Ive not studied or riden one so I can only say what I'v heard, and a couple of KBer's with the 650's arnt happy. Yet I would have thought that it was the same frount end as the thour?

ps: sorry bout the off topic 650 shit

[Sensei]

Tryed a SV1000 03 out for a change before buying the Beast . Good bike ok power for a twin not what I was hoping for but alright . Handled fine . Then there was the Firestrom . More power I felt front end pretty vage & soft . Made for a great 130k ride but got abit nasty when you pushed it . Over all I think they are both great bikes for the money & thats why they are what they are . They have been built for a price which has given them both some short falls but still excellent bike's for our road's given the 100k speed limit !!
SENSEI

[svs]

So you are saying the SV650 frount end is sweet? Ive not studied or riden one so I can only say what I'v heard, and a couple of KBer's with the 650's arnt happy. Yet I would have thought that it was the same frount end as the thour?

ps: sorry bout the off topic 650 shit

Frosty's (and my) race bikes both have racetech springs and emulators, and different fork oil to standard. Makes the world os difference.

BTW anyone after a 650, then mines still for sale

[Teflon]

You have lost he here... how can the later model be boring over the series1 VTR?
Or is thay not what you mean?

I've ridden two other VTR's, both lacking grunt that mine has.

I'm 90% sure mines standard, apart from K&N, and maybe a jet kit.

[dangerous]

I've ridden two other VTR's, both lacking grunt that mine has.

I'm 90% sure mines standard, apart from K&N, and maybe a jet kit.

K&N and dyno jet makes a big differance, also ther are restricters in some models... what year is yours? the series1 had 102hp series2 110hp... but I dont know what the diff is. I do know that the later models have restrictors in the inlet manafolds.... yet they have more hp????? hmmmmm

Check trhis out Tef http://www.dynobike.com/vtr1000_tips.htm

[Teflon]

K&N and dyno jet makes a big differance, also ther are restricters in some models... what year is yours? the series1 had 102hp series2 110hp... but I dont know what the diff is. I do know that the later models have restrictors in the inlet manafolds.... yet they have more hp????? hmmmmm

Check trhis out Tef http://www.dynobike.com/vtr1000_tips.htm

I'm sure there were no changes to the motor.

They might say it's 110hp motor, but i don't think so. I've seen dyno charts ranging from 90hp to about 100.

The firestorm will always be the underdog, so no use defending it.

[dangerous]

I'm sure there were no changes to the motor.

They might say it's 110hp motor, but i don't think so. I've seen dyno charts ranging from 90hp to about 100.

The firestorm will always be the underdog, so no use defending it.

Yeah... thats just what the book says.... which I expect is crank hp.
That link above shows stock, 92rwhp

[Cephas]

Thanks to all who replied - will make my decision later this week
I 'spose it was really like asking if anyone can tell whether a Ford is better than a Holden....anyway thanks for the feedback, it's appreciated

Cheers