Suzuki SV1000S vs Honda VTR1000

**riffer** · 10th April 2005, 15:53

Good luck on the new bike Cephas.

I look forward to picking up your (soon to be) old one on Wednesday...

Go for the Suzuki...

although I have the feeling you would love either of them...

See you on the road sometime

Simon

**TonyB** · 11th April 2005, 08:13

Originally Posted by Teflon

I've ridden two other VTR's, both lacking grunt that mine has.

I'm 90% sure mines standard, apart from K&N, and maybe a jet kit.

Interesting that you should say that. A couple of years back I did a training day at Ruapuna, and one of the excercises was to line up against another bike and have a short drag race then brake as hard as you could at some cones. I lined up against a black VTR several times, the VTR got away by a few bike lengths initially while I battled with an unhappy clutch and a low rpm miss, but then the FZR simply inhaled the VTR and blew past. So I figured VTR's weren't particularly fast.
Then I met Dangerous, and Aarons mate Steve. Their VTR's seem to have a LOT more go than the one mentioned above. So if there are restricted ones, where are they coming from and how do you recognise them?

**dangerous** · 11th April 2005, 19:08

Originally Posted by TonyB

Then I met Dangerous, and Aarons mate Steve. Their VTR's seem to have a LOT more go than the one mentioned above. So if there are restricted ones, where are they coming from and how do you recognise them?

I dont like blowing my own trumpet Tony........... but its not the bike

Actualy I'm not sure why some seem to differ a bit, if in fact that they do.... yank models are often down on power a bit due to the cat converters.
As far as a model diff goes, I know that the series 2 have a slightly differant tuning to them........... mines stock series 2 and Steves is a moded (intake/exhust restriction removed) and is Dyno jetted series 1... so thats why his hauls ass........ but honestly, I do believe its the rider, if a twin rider gets on the juce soon enuff then its harder for the muilty to catch in short runs. you have said your self that you have seen blackies exiting my rear tyre..... I open the taps earlier than most perhaps

**Kickaha** · 11th April 2005, 19:45

Originally Posted by dangerous

I dont like blowing my own trumpet Tony........... but its not the bike

Dunno what it could be then,cause it sure as fuck couldn't be the rider

**dangerous** · 30th April 2005, 19:59

Originally Posted by Cajun

SV1000 - its only a 5 speed

Ummmmm.... all the SV's I've ridden have 6 gears.

Today I spent the arvo degreasing/washing/polishing these two bikes, so you could kinda say I was intimate with them so heres my thoughts.

The VTR scrubed up easy as, per usual. I then scrubed the SV up and decided that it isent as well finished as the VTR even poloising it up dident buff up as nice, also found the reg/rec bolts missing and this isent the 1st time things have fallen off this bike.

Ride time, 1st the VTR went as per norm small feel to it tucked in tightly behind the screen (d/b) and a old feel to the carbs defintly a old school bike. As the huge carbs dump the tank of fuel in its a good rush of hp.

SV started revs droped back and the 1st thing I noticed was the smoothness over the VTR, also the gear box was great in comparasion. The inj SV pulled like a moderen bike should some what deceptive accelation and very snapy in comparasion to the VTR.
The postition is more on top rather than sit in and the cockpit has heaps more room (d/b screen) to it over all not as homely, but a buzzy bike to ride.

End result as far as deciding 'which bike' well its personal prefrance at the end of the day.

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Dunno what it could be then,cause it sure as fuck couldn't be the rider

Yeah yeahhhhhhhhh................ buckets tomorow mate we will see

**Dafe** · 19th July 2005, 20:28

Read this review from "Performance Bike" Magazine. All the riders were given each bike for one week and then rotated through each and every bike. The VTR rates last and the SV is the top of four bikes. Find out why..........

http://www.sv650.org/reviews/PB_mag_...B%20review.htm

The above review and another very similar review from another top bike mag was the reason I brought my SV1000.

**SPman** · 19th July 2005, 20:42

Originally Posted by dangerous

1st of all aj.... no jap bike has 'soul'

Bull-Fucking-Shit!!!

**dangerous** · 19th July 2005, 20:52

Originally Posted by SP

Bull-Fucking-Shit!!!

It dosent man........ too smooth, too economic, too comfy, too user friendly, too bloody perfect...... mate own a Iti bike like my Guzzi then go to a Jappa like my VTR..... no way is there soul in a jappa, its just not built in.
Every time ya start the Guzzi it does something differant... so unpredictable the VTR... same every time, boreing as but hassel free..... see what I'm saying here

**Sensei** · 19th July 2005, 21:00

Every time ya start the Guzzi it does something differant... so unpredictable

Yea like wont start . Floods it self . Shakes like shit . Rattles as if the rod has come loose . Clunks into gear .
The list goes on & on &....................

Sorry D to good to pass up

**Dafe** · 19th July 2005, 21:02

Dangerous, I'm hearing ya.....
I rode a Harley V-Rod a few weeks back and man, It's truely a whole new element to motorcycling. I'm not disagreeing with SP either though, I'm curious to know if SP has riden a Harley or something similar. If not, then Sp you should go down your local store and take one for a spin, they really are fantastic, be sure to try a V-Rod too.
I'm still buzzing from that Harley, If I could have afforded I would have.
Infact, It's only a time thing for me!!!
I wouldn't say Jap bikes don't have soul though, In their own way, they are your soulmate, because they're reliable, dependable and they aren't goona spring some unknown suprise on you.

**gav** · 19th July 2005, 21:03

pffft, RC30, RD350LC, Z1, first CBR900RR.......
my old Z1...

**Dafe** · 19th July 2005, 21:05

Dude, Farking nice pic.....
Dunno about the reply though, trying to hear you man!!!
Whats this pain your feeling? You need to see a SV or Firestorm Doctor dude!
Your hallucinating about the CBR's, No fours to be found here man.

**SPman** · 19th July 2005, 21:06

Obviously never ridden my YZFSP. That has loads of soul - frequently prefixed with "you fucking R.." - just like my Ducatis in the '70's. When it is good it is brilliant, on an off day.........

And it shakes, growls and vibrates like any good old European shi....class act!

Nearest Ive got to a Harley is a Buell XB9R and XB12R. Great bikes - shame about the engine...

**dangerous** · 19th July 2005, 21:15

Originally Posted by Sensei

Every time ya start the Guzzi it does something differant... so unpredictable

Yea like wont start . Floods it self . Shakes like shit . Rattles as if the rod has come loose . Clunks into gear .
The list goes on & on &....................

Sorry D to good to pass up

Na mate you are on to it never flooded tho was injected, but yes on all the other tho

The remark that SP quoted was regarding a SV vs a VTR... I have both in the garage and the SV is so bland compared to the VTR however it does rev a shit load more, like a mulity does so yes it can be a beter buzz that way but thats not Soul...... the rougher vib of the big carbed VTR is more so very lumpy and quicker through the gears, but nothing like a b.e.a.r's bike.

Originally Posted by SP

Obviously never ridden my YZFSP. That has loads of soul

Not yours but a mate had one for many a year.......... just another muilti be it a bloody fast one back then, sorry no soul... just rang its tits off, mind you it did have a lot of tuning problems, was a race bike after all.