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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    Tell you what then Mark I will raise the stakes for you. This is so its a total Win/win situation for you.
    Heres the deal I'm offering.
    You contact the LTSA on 0800108809--its a free call
    They will put you on to the LVVTA. They will give you the names of local inspectors.
    THEN Take it to the inspector or perhaps as you have suggested you come here with it
    Now heres the deal of the century for you
    IF the Low vol inspector says Hey theres no issue -the bikes totally fine with the RGV250 USD front end RGV brakes and RGV front wheel and does not require a low vol certification Then I will pay Dan in full for the bike for you and pay the inspector.
    You get the bike FOR FREE and I eat humble pie because I was wrong.

    This is a total you can't loose situation for you Mark. You know Im wrong so can lord that over me and enjoy proving Frosty wrong . You get a piece of paper so when you go for a wof its confirmation the bikes legal That will make selling it again easy too .Best of all you don't have to pay for the bike.
    But of course theres a flip side--If it does need to be certified then you have to get the work done so it complies and pay for the low vol cert.
    You simply cannot loose.
    Control is firmly in your hands so I cannot skew the results for you by biaseing anyone.
    Heres over $1000 I'm offering you to prove me wrong.

    Why would i bother?

    i have nothing to prove, this isn't a contest of whose right, i really couldn't give a shit...

    ill pop by ya car yard later... mate

    and it's not over $1000 because i paid less than that for it buddy....

    and i have enough money that i don't need your piddly grand...

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    Hypothetical situation.A"qualified bike mechanic" cuts,welds and bolts together a motorcycle then sells it on to another biker. He is warned by a actual mechanic in wrighting that the machine he has built is dangerous.
    The new owner has an accident directly attibuted to his "engineering" skills and ends up dead.
    How long do you folks think the jail term will be. Would he be up for manslaughter or murder??
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    You got too many hims and hises.

    But in response to your question.
    IANAL. But, def not murder. Not possible, no malice prepense.

    Manslaughter,very unlikely . Assuming from your quotes that the vendor is not actually a qualified engineer or mechanic, then he owes no greater duty of care or professional expertise than any member of the public.

    Assuming that the modifier acted in good faith, and did not lie about the bike, then it is a matter of caveat emptor. "I have fitted blah and blah. Some folk might not think that not a good idea, I think it is good. Do you want to buy it".

    No different to me, an ordinary random, removing and replacing the wheel of my bike. Somehow I make a mistake, and overtighten something. I sell the bike a week later, and the overstressed bit breaks causing a fatal crash.

    Would I, should I be liable for manslaughter (murder is out of the question).
    To prove manslaughter you would need to show that I was grossly negligent . For a non-professional that's a VERY high bar.If I WERE a professional mechanic, putting myself forward in a business context, that would be different.
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    In this case, if that came to pass "manslaughter" would not be the term-more like "natural justice" or even "improving the species"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    You got too many hims and hises.

    But in response to your question.
    IANAL. But, def not murder. Not possible, no malice prepense.

    Manslaughter,very unlikely . Assuming from your quotes that the vendor is not actually a qualified engineer or mechanic, then he owes no greater duty of care or professional expertise than any member of the public.

    Assuming that the modifier acted in good faith, and did not lie about the bike, then it is a matter of caveat emptor. "I have fitted blah and blah. Some folk might not think that not a good idea, I think it is good. Do you want to buy it".

    No different to me, an ordinary random, removing and replacing the wheel of my bike. Somehow I make a mistake, and overtighten something. I sell the bike a week later, and the overstressed bit breaks causing a fatal crash.

    Would I, should I be liable for manslaughter (murder is out of the question).
    To prove manslaughter you would need to show that I was grossly negligent . For a non-professional that's a VERY high bar.If I WERE a professional mechanic, putting myself forward in a business context, that would be different.
    Dya remember that mechanic a couple of years back thad ended up doing time because a car crashed as a direct result of his mechanical work?
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    the front end is a straight bolt in bearings were the same...

    the bike was only painted etc...

    i have done over 7,000 km's on this bike and nothing fell off nor am i dead...

    you really need to keep your nose out tony...

    i'll pop by your car yard sometime mate

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