All this talk about "the Zone" etc doesn't really help if the objective of our discussion is safety. My zone is about 140k but ranges from 130 - 165k depending on the road and the conditions.
Despite my personal view that this is safe and "feels" right, the constabulary have a different perspective.And if I'm honest with myself, there is no way I can guarantee come to a screeching controlled halt in an emergency. I think I can but every time...........??
There are fast bikers and there are old bikers. Mutually exclusive. nuff said
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
my god
finally i start to read something on here that has possibly some real value, and an actual sensible approach (even if i wasn't gunna listen myself)
and find several pages of people slapping each other with handbags
come on gys, either get over the problem, over yourselves, or maybe even get a room
just sort it, it reeks of tension, especially you katman![]()
It's called a dog pile... glad you decided to join in, it was starting to look like it was all over![]()
Political correctness: a doctrine which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd from the clean end.
dog pile`aye![]()
Ok, we can't all afford trackdays and we sometimes speed, but remember kids, pushing your limits on blind cornered, traffic filled roads with no run off and a strong possibility of diesel, cowshit and gravel is not really gonna improve your "skills".
It's just playing roulette.
Originally Posted by Kickha
Originally Posted by Akzle
My take on this is that instead of trying to up the pace, then try and up the smoothness, skill, experience and knowledge. When these increase the pace will go up automatically and safely. If you are pushing the pace to a level you are not comfortable with, then you are pushing too hard. It may have fatal consequences if done outside a controlled environment. Are you ready for a corner that tightens and has a little gravel?
Actually pushing the limits should probably only happen on a racetrack. You don't want to find your limit on the road.
Ride fast or be last.
I feel it somewhat disturbing to read such threads, not less for the amount of meaningless slapping going on for 15 pages (bar less than a handful useful comments).
When I'm pushing my bike too much, the last thing that springs to my mind is some random comments from an unknown biker on KB (not known by me, that is). And if it ever does, it will undoubtedly be too late (or it will mean that I'm about to do something stupid).
If I really wanted to read useful things about riding at pace, I'd pick a recognised and reliable source and learn about the physics of biking without mention of "pushing the boundaries", as it is the handling and not the boundary that matters. And then I'd practice it, little at a time, to hone my skills as safely as can be on a bike.
But then I ride a cruiser, so what do I know about biking anway?
[edit] I came into this thread thinking it was about "The Pace". Not quite, heh?!
What acc should subsidise is rider training days, trackdays are great.... but a rider training day is better... learning the most effective ways of stopping, suspension, blah blah blah, are going to give you greater skills to call upon if you find yourself in a precarious situation by pushing your boundaries (as we all do)
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