The Group Ride Guide Announcement

[Katman]

To think that the person that posted on KB that they are going for a ride on a particular day, and would those wanting to ride with them ... meet up at ... could in any way, be held responsible for any dickhead behaviour (or results of such) of any person doing that ride.... is totally ludicrous.

Call me old fashioned but I prefer the days when group rides were organised quietly between a small group of mates who knew and respected each others riding.

The idea, of throwing a random bunch of motorcyclists together in a testosterone fueled (for the males anyway - don't know what fuels lesbians) GTA Coro Loop Edition 'ride', freaks me.

[FJRider]

Call me old fashioned but I prefer the days when group rides were organised quitely between a small group of mates who knew and respected each others riding.

The idea of throwing a random bunch of motorcyclists together in a testosterone fueled (for the males - don't know what fuels lesbians) GTA Coro Loop Edition 'ride' freaks me.

I must be a little old fashioned too ...

I'm not sure about Lesbians either ... I've been trying to get inside (the head) of one ... any ... for some years now...

[caseye]

I'd just like them to consider me one! I feel like one nowadays , what with equal rights and all the telly show about them.

[_STAIN_]

well have finished now talking to all the ride organizers I know in the Wellington area. as suspected only one who is also a mentor had been approached re ride guide.
Guide put in pace for organizers without seeking any input from them... well leaving this thread now, and in true KB style... you thought I was serious

[PrincessBandit]

I'd just like them to consider me one! I feel like one nowadays , what with equal rights and all the telly show about them.

Riiiiiight......

[The Stranger:Me]

well have finished now talking to all the ride organizers I know in the Wellington area. as suspected only one who is also a mentor had been approached re ride guide.
Guide put in pace for organizers without seeking any input from them... well leaving this thread now, and in true KB style... you thought I was serious

There were many things I thought you were.
Serious wasn't one of them.

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

well have finished now talking to all the ride organizers I know in the Wellington area. as suspected only one who is also a mentor had been approached re ride guide.
Guide put in pace for organizers without seeking any input from them... well leaving this thread now, and in true KB style... you thought I was serious

Mate, I have no idea how many were invited to contribute but going by the responses and contributions from those that were and did there were many. The spectrum included mentors (some), recognised experienced riders, people who have organised rides via this forum, new riders, people from the industry, people known to generate debate.......the list goes on.
The various topics, debates and discusions went on for pages and pages and the whole process took months! We sort legal advise and had it scrutinised to ensure the intent was to guide, not dictate or undermine anybody wishing to continue organising group rides.

I think it would be fair to say it was comprehensively covered.

I say again this is a 'guide' use it if you wish

[Mental Trousers]

38 were asked to take part

[caseye]

Thats a large group of people to get any sort of concensus from, well done.

[StoneY]

I must be a little old fashioned too ...

I'm not sure about Lesbians either ... I've been trying to get inside (the head) of one ... any ... for some years now...

I'd just like them to consider me one! I feel like one nowadays , what with equal rights and all the telly show about them.

If I get re-incarnated as a female I will definitely be a lesbian

[BuckBuck#1]

Absolutely.

Thoroughly wasted on an "organisation" like KB. Too many disparate riding styles, attitudes and egos.

Find people you enjoy, who ride like you do and stay away from KB group rides.

KB's not a club of like-minded people with similar attitudes to life and riding. It's as far from that as you can get and still have a common interest.

Still, if the initiative saves one person from a head-on with a car over the next 12 weeks it was worthwhile.

It's an interesting culture change though. Tried the same approach a few years back and got shouted down fairly aggressively.

I have gone and booked a ticket, back row in about the middle, so I can see the full screen, and guess what is showing:

The Cruisie Wednesday Night Ride -TCWNR Wellington.

J D I recall moons ago we did an organised group ride around the Wellington harbour and bays, a worthwhile and rewarding opportunity for newbie riders.

It is a shame that in a few short years the tide has washed in and out and left a lot of debris. I hope that those who ride on TCWNR do ride carefully and responsibly, though I have my doubts that this will be matched by a similar attitude, going by the banter appearing now in that TCWNR forum thread.

[buellbabe]

Call me old fashioned but I prefer the days when group rides were organised quietly between a small group of mates who knew and respected each others riding.

The idea, of throwing a random bunch of motorcyclists together in a testosterone fueled (for the males anyway - don't know what fuels lesbians) GTA Coro Loop Edition 'ride', freaks me.

My thoughts exactly.
The one and only publicly 'advertised' KB group ride I have been on was early last year(I think?) and by my standards it was a huge group of bikes.

After Whitianga when we started getted into some nice stuff Blackbuell and I just stopped and let everyone go past, then we waited a bit longer and then we continued on the ride. I do NOT like riding in huge groups of 'unknowns'. Thats why I don't do it.

I can understand the groaning about the perceived PC aspect of these suggested guidelines but given the verbal sparring that goes on before some of the rides and the idiot riding that happens then is it such a bad thing to offer up some guidelines??? They are not law. They are there for consideration and each individual will still make their own choice...

Oh and if you think how can she comment on the riding if she has only done one KB big group ride? Well I can read and the 'aftermath' reading is pretty eye-opening...