Oh, how I ROFLed.Originally Posted by dpex
Forum whore
Oh, how I ROFLed.
I am a killer blue mantee
The biggest error in your post is you are assuming that the amount of time spent on the road is what constitutes a "normal" and "experienced" motorcyclist. That those riders who use their bikes once a week are in some way inferior to motorcyclists that use them everyday.
See, it grinds my gears when someone starts grouping motorcyclists into hardcore riders, weekend warriors blah blah blah. In the end we are all motorcyclists be it we ride every day or once a month.
The only thing that will tell them if they need more training is themselves. Those who realise they need more practice and help seek it. Those who don't, don't seek it. Simple innit!
The outcome after this is up to rider and the biker gods. It helps to carry a virgin sacrifice on ones bike to appease the biker gods.
ACC can go fuck themselves
+1 Same here
Bouncy...bouncy..
I agree
"No matter what bike you ride. It's all the same wind in your face"
Forum whore
Ah - see you are obviously one of those "track-day-tossers" who craves up the road thinking it's their own personal race track, cutting through blind corners and crowding out the weekend warrior enjoying their ride.
Just WTF do you really think it would prove to have your wee track race?
Second thoughts - I'll put my money on the bunch of weekend warriors who catch up with you after you carve your way through them.
Stupid little labels.
Weekend Warriors
Tarmac Tossers
Real bikers
bla bla
Victorious
A track???
Who the hell wants to go round and round and round and round a bloody track?
It may have escaped your attention oh wonderous-god-of-all-things motorcycling but theres a fairly sizeable proportion of us that have no bloody interest at all in track riding. Otherwise we would've, you know, got a SPORTS bike!
It may moisten your panties to partake in such pursuits - more power to ya - but no-one I know gives a flying fuck about track riding.
The original offer still stand - unadulterated and non negotiable. Hell, for the price of your departure I'd pay for the entire day myself
Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet
ACC can go fuck themselves
dpex for forum jerk - get your votes in people
Forum whore
Haven't you got some ironing to do?
ACC can go fuck themselves
LMAO Nah, afraid not
Hardcore Biker
Well I'm an ageing comebacker and a weekend warrior, the combination of which (in your terms) makes me a serious danger to myself and everyone else on the road. Oh yeah, I fell off once too so that probably proves your point.
Some of us actually have to (and want to) make a living and doing so may require quite a different form of transport. I drive about 75,000kms a year making sure I can still pay my staff (and myself) each week and that my business stays viable. Unfortunately that means driving a bloody great Falcon wagon as I have yet to figure out how to fit several wheelchairs and other sundry equipment on the back of my bike. Consequently I am a weekend warrior out of necessity but it hardly effects my "status" as a rider and I am quite frankly sick of being lectured by self righteous prats, usually half my age, on what I should and shouldn't do as a biker.
My one off (the only one I have ever had, including my somewhat reckless youth) involved me and me alone and I have enough intelligence to have learned from that episode as to when, and when not to ride.
I am fully aware of my level of skills and of my limitations and spend my weekends making a deliberate effort to reduce those limitations. Yes I have done a couple of track days in my nice shiny gear, and I may do some more again but I actually like riding around the country either by myself or with friends.
I will probably never be as fast or as skillful as you but that doesn't diminish the experience I have each time I go for a ride nor does it lessen my value as a rider.
rant over, now back to the bikini thread...............
"Twilight's like soccer. They run around for two hours, nobody scores, and a billion fans insist you just don't understand"
Team Zimmerframe
I presume you are well used to making unsubstantiable claims, not least of which is that asserting I 'carve-up' weekend warriors and generally hoon the highways and by-ways.Ah - see you are obviously one of those "track-day-tossers" who craves up the road thinking it's their own personal race track, cutting through blind corners and crowding out the weekend warrior enjoying their ride.
Just WTF do you really think it would prove to have your wee track race?
Second thoughts - I'll put my money on the bunch of weekend warriors who catch up with you after you carve your way through them.
Stupid little labels.
Weekend Warriors
Tarmac Tossers
Real bikers
bla bla
Nothing could be further from the truth. I get my rocks off (and go through countless bottles of heart-pills) on the track. Pushing me and bike, often to overload. On the road I now far prefer just to amble along.
I purposely don't wear any level or real protection clothing on the road. This serves to remind me AT ALL TIMES that taking matters at a cordial rate will see me end my journey in one piece. Having splashed on the track enough times, I know it hurts even when fully togged up. What it would be like with no protection beggars my imagination, so I choose to not find out the hard way.
Interestingly....although this may be unique to my psyche...on those rare occasions I do tog up in all the gear, for the road, I find myself starting to push the bike. I guess that must be something similar to what happens to folk when they don a mask.
However, prior to finding the joys of the freedoms of the track I used to ride like many other red-misted knob-jockeys.
Not any more. I don't feel the need.
Only 'Now' exists in reality.
Team Zimmerframe
Hey Trumpy, three points in reply.
1st. Any person driving 75K a year is, perforce, a very skilled driver. You, like your peers, will have an auto-pilot programme which alerts you to dangers even before they register in your consciousness. You're the sort who knows when some pratt is about to turn right even before the pratt makes the final decision. Thus your skills on the road are way above the average dude who drives 15Ks to work, then home again, then leaps on the beast on the weekends.
2nd. You assert you are fully aware of your level of skills. That puts you in the half of one percent of most weekend warriors.
3rd. I ride neither particularly fast or skilfully, when compared to those who do and are. But like you. I know my limitations.
Good post though. :--))
Only 'Now' exists in reality.
Whip it, whip it good!
Well you know, I ride weekends nowadays (will change once my blue lovely is back on the road again) and I dont ride every weekend either. Been doing this for many years now, though once upon a time a bike was my only form of transport. I seem to have manged to avoid becoming a statistic thus far, and I have no plans to become one anytime soon either.
What makes you think that being able to beat someone on a race track makes you less likely to become a statistic on the open road with all its hidden dangers? Certainly track time will improve your ability to handle your bike around corners at speed, make you a bit smoother, teach you your limits, or your bikes for that matter.
I wonder what the stats are for bullet proof track day riders who issue challenges to others, then get cleaned up by other road users while they were so busy congratulating themselves on their fantastic skills their spidey sense has become dulled?
Team Zimmerframe
No. It's the "let's get the crash-rate to zero" zealots who are vexed.
Frankly, I don't believe the NZ crash-rate, of all sorts, can be lessened by any sort of lineal application of yet more rules.
This year it will be X. Next year it will be Y.
But you have to admit it's a bit of a worry that Hon Steven Joyce has noted that motorcyclists are represented in the stats at a disproportionate rate. That means just one thing....More turns of the screw till 'we' get these pesky, yet utterly capable, according to many, motorcyclists to stop getting dead.
And who will be there to enforce these new and even more pointless and repressive rules? Nobody. Like there's nobody (aka, cops) enforcing the rules now.
I say again; apart from a minute proportion of drivers, NZ drivers are largely self-governing.
You're a bit of an old woman and mostly a pain in the arse, Katman. However, you're not stupid. So try this.
Do an 8-hour road-trip. Mix suburban with country, and count the number of vehicles you pass, both ways, then count the number of serious transgressions you encounter....Serious meaning, life-threatening as opposed to just breaking a rule where no danger exists from breaking the rule.
Then divide the vehicles you pass by the number of transgressions. You'll be unlucky to observe a 0.001% result.
But you can bet your booties that the pressure from ACC will be pressuring Joyce to come up with some creative politico-speak to assuage ACC's fears of mounting and insupportable bills which are coupled to a gov demand to reduce their costs. And we bikers are going to be at the front end of that gratuitous pillum.
Lastly, on account of you haven't commented. Do you agree that once-a-week bikers, who drive short distances in their cages during the week, are as capably aware as those bikers who ride daily?
Just curious.
Only 'Now' exists in reality.
Forum whore
What a stupid question.
Some are and some aren't.
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