Help, Should I get a DUCATI?

[Maki]

An old saying - "People buy horsepower, but they drive torque." Torque is force, and force causes acceleration. Horsepower is marketing dribble and costs you money.

An interesting read: http://www.vettenet.org/torquehp.html

In other words don't knock the HP of the 999 till you've tried it.

BS... Acceleration is much more closely correlated with horsepower than torque. Torque is just twisting force but horsepower measures how much work is actually being accomplished.

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http://www.vettenet.org/torquehp.html

Good article by the way.

"The Only Thing You Really Need to Know
Repeat after me. "It is better to make torque at high rpm than at low rpm, because you can take advantage of *gearing*." :-)

Thanks for your time.

Bruce"

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Horsepower = (torque x rpm)/5252

So, torque at high rpm = high horsepower, and according to Bruce that is what you want.

[imdying]

Yep and that's why he's selling it.

From reading his post it sounds like it's because it's too much of a package (for the road).

[2wheeldrifter]

From reading his post it sounds like it's because it's too much of a package (for the road).

[johan]

I think the modern Ducati sport bikes are tuned to produce peek torque at high revs too, much like the IL4s.

Isn't that the point of the desmo valve design, that you can have very aggressive closing cam lobes that produces loads of torque even at lower revs (while still keeping the torque higher up)?

[Marknz]

An 848. In white.

Ooooooh. Where's a tissue?

I used it already... sorry

[v8s&2wheels]

All good words here thanks guys.

To the guy who said a jappa v twin.. not happening, ive got a desireable jappa and it doesnt yank my chain, heres a scenario..

I ride down the road on my jappa superbike, and then get passed by a throbbing ducati 999 and I automatically think, bastard has what i want.

Thats just a scenario though, it hasn't happened to me yet (getting past by a ducati that is).

While i appreciate the MV and the aprilias, I look at them and think " I'd rather have my k7 thanks ".

My boss also has a k7 special edition same as mine, and he traded in his 996 for the gsxr brand new. I asked him the other day and he said it was the best decision he ever made, the gsxr is so much more rideable around town, better two up, and so much more power EVERYWHERE. But hes also a big fullah (about 110kgs) so the ducati felt uncomfortable for him too.

Guess all I can do is test ride some 999's and decide on which to have.

p.s. Anyone want to swap a 999 for a k7 1000 for a short ride/day

[Dooly]

Grant, GrantNZ on here is the bloke with the 999 in our ride group here in the Bay, if you want to talk to a local with a 999.
I have ridden his 999, it revs hard, whereas mine has lots of torque.
And they do handle and stop well.
Most wont ourun a Jappa litre in a straight line, but are true real world bikes where IMO the power is very usable, especially in the twisty bits.

I love my Ducati. It does spend a lot of time in bits, but I'm always tinkering with it.
Currently to look at it now all you'll see is the trellis frame and engine, its stripped, so not the best to see atm
I plan to keep mine and just muck about with it, add bits and pieces etc over time.
But think a 1098 is in order very soon too.

Come on a Sat ride with us soon, when mine's back together and check it out.

Oh, and the dry clutch noise is poetry in motion.

[aahsv]

The 999 model is very cool - Ducs have a special heritage and character of their own (Aprilia does not compare) - top speed means buggar all on the road - they way Ducs deliver their torque and power is both challenging and satisfying - the sound of termignonis' is distinctive and mesmerising - read up on them in the Duc forum and talk to those in the know
http://www.ducatispot.com/forums/

[sondela]

p.s. Anyone want to swap a 999 for a k7 1000 for a short ride/day

Pity you're so far away or I might be tempted

[Hitcher]

Although they may be expensive to maintain, at least Ducati is an Italian marque with a New Zealand dealer network capable of supporting the factory warranty.

[AllanB]

Oh, and the dry clutch noise is poetry in motion.

Good for you mate - first time I've heard a dry clutch described this way!

At idle they sound like a paint tin full of nails to me ........

One thing I like about them - you can get all types of spunky covers for them.

Of interest - does a dry clutch last longer or wear out quicker than a wet one?
What's the advantage - it's it purely that it will not contaminate the engine oil? Less drag on the engine (not bathed in oil and robbing HP)?

[lanci]

Do it! I'm very very tempted to sell the Trumpy and go back to the Ducati brand (I owned a Monster 620 in the past). I believe they are pretty reliable post 2000, so no probs there. You hear the unreliable card from people who've never owned one of the newer ones or only re-tell the bullshit peddled at the pub.....

Again, do it!!!

[boomer]

Im very happy with the bike i have at the moment, 192hp (at the engine)

I don;t wanna burst ya bubble but teh k7 doesn't in stock format, and yours is stock, come with 192bhp... either at the engine, the crank or the wheel...

no, never , not even.

Now don;t get me wrong.. i had one and she was fast but they don;t do 192bhp matey potaty



I too would get a Duc, a bayliss replica in fact

[lanci]

Did I mention you should do it???

[Hiflyer]

Although they may be expensive to maintain,

Probably not as expensive as my hyosung




But seriously, is it cos the parts are more expensive or they require more invasive services? or a combo of both?