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[motorbyclist]

Are you going to go for a GT250 again or has your experience told you to look elsewhere?

lol funny how ital doesn't seem to agree with what alot of bikers with actual experience seem to agree on ( @ Dushy)

The GT250R wasn't a bad bike although I personally preferred my CBR250RR which was my first bike.

, why not get another gt250r. Good bike IMO.

well for one the cbr250 is a better bike and he knows it....

and your formative learner years are a great chance to have a go on different types/styles - what next? another sprotsbike? another failbike? waht about something sporty/tourey/naked(y).... maybe a hornet

[Ixion]

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here's what you should learn: a gap in stationary traffic means someone is going through it: ..
a gap in stationary traffic means someone is going through it - ..l

This is one of the Great Truths. Except, lose the stationary. Any gap, someone is going to go into it if they're near enough to. Whether it's t lights, or lanesplitting. if you see a gap, half a dozen cage drivers will have seen it too, and decided "Ooohhh, gap! I'll go there " (Usually no logical reason WHY they go there , it's just a lemming response).

[firefighter]

I cringed when i heard 'motorcycle vs truck' on the LMR, good to hear your ok.

As a side note. Fuck some of you are real fuckwits, I bet you'd miss a 10m wide pothole whilst going 110km/h around a blind corner your riding skills are so magnificent......tui

Take it easy brosef, just keep your wits about you next time eh!

[Squiggles]

Fuck some of you are real fuckwits

[firefighter]

Lol. I'll be a tired grumpy coont all I want!

[Gremlin]

Lol. I'll be a tired grumpy coont all I want!

Sure, but from the guys record, plus his post, I didn't see his idea of riding changing much... which isn't a great way to stay alive in Auckland.

Hence I posted... just in a more tactful way than motorbyclist (who would have thought, I possess tact!)

Fact is, it doesn't matter who's right, who's wrong. Part of your skill as a motorcyclist is handling other people's fuck ups... its only you thats going to go to hospital/replace your vehicle etc.

[mattian]

[/B] every time I hear this same crash story it could have been at least minimised if the biker either slowed down enough (like to a 20kph crawl) to not be hurt if not avoid the accident altogether, .

There you go, you just contradicted yourself after saying that speed was not part of the argument.

[Rayray401]

I agree with Toto...time for a naked Honda, now get mine!, its up for grabs XD

[metalhead]

how much do you want for it?

[Danae]

a gap in stationary traffic means someone is going through it

+1

You must take this to heart especially while splitting. On my commute I go up mt eden rd (full of idiot drivers, honestly) and often the traffic gets backed up so I split alongside it in the bus lane beside the parked cars. But I am always, ALWAYS wary of the oncoming traffic. There are a number of sidestreets on the left that cars frequently turn into, and they often don't expect to see a vehicle of any kind coming up the side of the queue. Usually they just go for it. On the FXR it is sometimes difficult to see over traffic but I just look for gaps, sidestreets and driveways to shops/petrol stations that cars (or trucks) can suddenly appear in.

Anyways, lucky escape. Try a different bike....mmmm VTR250.

[Real_Wolf]

yeah, same thing down onewa road which I go along, theres lots of side streets and the cars often pull out of them... into you.

On another note, saw a cop car stuck at the top of onewa at the traffic this morning, laughed at him, knowing he'll be stuck for like 30 minutes at least

[motorbyclist]

[/B] every time I hear this same crash story it could have been at least minimised if the biker either slowed down enough (like to a 20kph crawl) to not be hurt if not avoid the accident altogether, .

There you go, you just contradicted yourself after saying that speed was not part of the argument.

well why not quote the whole of the bloody sentence...
"Or better yet, stop riding like a dunce"

i never said speed wasn't a factor, but it does appear that not looking for hazards was the major cause here

i don't want to ruin the thread with the never ending speed argument, so i focus on the "not being oblivious to obvious hazards" aspect of driving/riding - which as an aside note is imho what ACC should be working on, rather than the current mentality of "if they aren't moving faster than waking speed they can't get hurt"

[Rayray401]

how much do you want for it?

mm...5.7k. its an 06' and got low Ks!

[Squiggles]

imho what ACC should be working on

I await your email with suggestions on this...

[ital916]

well why not quote the whole of the bloody sentence...
"Or better yet, stop riding like a dunce"

i never said speed wasn't a factor, but it does appear that not looking for hazards was the major cause here

i don't want to ruin the thread with the never ending speed argument, so i focus on the "not being oblivious to obvious hazards" aspect of driving/riding - which as an aside note is imho what ACC should be working on, rather than the current mentality of "if they aren't moving faster than waking speed they can't get hurt"

You talk the talk....but can you walk the walk....na I dont think so

Its three pronged, and trying to boost one factor in front of the other is pointless. Speed, hazard identification and rider/driver skills for both us and car drivers are the three areas that ACC is working on.

If you ever attend a defensive drivers course you will realise it is focused almost entirely on hazard identification and vehicle control with a little on speed (same with the motorcycle variants). ACC cannot do everything, they are not omnipotent or all seeing. There is a chain of events that lead to an accident, ACC are focusing publicly on removing the speed aspect but they do acknowledge the other ones. Remove one link in the chain and the accident is less likely to occur.

Stephen I am game for the ACC ride, also if you need someone to write a proposal to ACC for a bike safety week (which I think is a good idea) I am happy to do so after exams.