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    Too old for a tune?

    I just got my bike back from Cyclespot Honda. I rang them today to see about tunning the bike, and aparently the bike is too old for a tune . Anyway, if honda won't take it I was thinking Red Baron being a supplier of Yamaha and all. But I've heard bad things about them. Who would you recomend, I was thinking Mt Eden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magua
    I just got my bike back from Cyclespot Honda. I rang them today to see about tunning the bike, and aparently the bike is too old for a tune . Anyway, if honda won't take it I was thinking Red Baron being a supplier of Yamaha and all. But I've heard bad things about them. Who would you recomend, I was thinking Mt Eden.
    ???? Too old for a tune ??? Wot a load of bollocks. No bike is "too old" to tune. A real old one might not benefit so much , but we'd be talking 1920's or earlier here. Ask them what they really mean. Probably they don't have a manual for it and don't know what to set it to.

    If you can tune a Manx Norton or KTT Velo (and you sure can), then anything newer is certainly a goer. I tune my T500 regularly and that's 1972
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion
    ???? Too old for a tune ??? Wot a load of bollocks. No bike is "too old" to tune. A real old one might not benefit so much , but we'd be talking 1920's or earlier here. Ask them what they really mean. Probably they don't have a manual for it and don't know what to set it to.

    If you can tune a Manx Norton or KTT Velo (and you sure can), then anything newer is certainly a goer. I tune my T500 regularly and that's 1972
    Maybe not chronological age. More like too old as in too worn out.

    Jeez you're tough on bikes Magua...
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    Hahah, 38,000k's. It's not that old. He might be afraid that it would fall apart if he touched it. Actually, I just did a sweep and there is no evidence of my sellotape repairs left on the bike anymore, go the new fairings .
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    Yes, but bikes = cool and cars = suck. I think it's Newton's fourth law or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magua
    Hahah, 38,000k's. It's not that old. He might be afraid that it would fall apart if he touched it. Actually, I just did a sweep and there is no evidence of my sellotape repairs left of the bike anymore, go the new fairings .
    T500's done 60000 miles ` 100000 ks and it's not about to fall apart.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Haha, so you are saying my bike would float better than it rides?
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    Yes, but bikes = cool and cars = suck. I think it's Newton's fourth law or something.
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    lamo.. too old for a tune..
    now where's my left handed screwdriver..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magua
    I just got my bike back from Cyclespot Honda. I rang them today to see about tunning the bike, and aparently the bike is too old for a tune . Anyway, if honda won't take it I was thinking Red Baron being a supplier of Yamaha and all. But I've heard bad things about them. Who would you recomend, I was thinking Mt Eden.
    Maybe it's too old for a Dyno-tune ?, but *never* too old for a good mechanic to tune up the engine so it's running right. Sounds like they're giving you the run around bud, you are right in taking it elsewhere to have the work done in that case.

    I can recommend taking it to Brent at Spectrum Motorcycles, Takapuna. He's always done a good job on my cickles. However, the last courtesy bike he gave me would have probably been too old to tune up!

    Ps. Any mechanic who lies to you to weasle out of a 'difficult' job is a loser and not worth the time of day!

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    Just a case of diminishing returns for them - one thing will lead to another,one fault fixed highlights another,they can't stop once they've started...and then you've got a bill twice the value of the bike...then you are back every week complaing because something else has gone wrong.Been there done that...countless times,pretty good move on their part.
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    Its a problem in that while real old bikes can get sorted cause they obey basic principles of tuning, and the latest bikes fall into the techno age of chips ECU programming and the such but the glam rock bikes that need the tecno knowledge but lack the back up are a problem to the Auto-electrician because they are the in-betweenies and so no one wants to deal to the half tech needs? maybe? its like gameboy revisited?
    Your never to old for a sportsbike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motu
    Just a case of diminishing returns for them - one thing will lead to another,one fault fixed highlights another,they can't stop once they've started...and then you've got a bill twice the value of the bike...then you are back every week complaing because something else has gone wrong.Been there done that...countless times,pretty good move on their part.
    At 38000 k's ? On that basis what is the effective life of a bike ? Junk it as soon as it's out of wareenty?
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion
    At 38000 k's ? On that basis what is the effective life of a bike ? Junk it as soon as it's out of wareenty?
    Sometimes things are just out of phase with mileage - carbs are a real headache these days,with cars we haven't seen them for nearly 10 yrs,and every time we touch one it all goes horribly wrong.Multiple carbs are worse,and I don't envy a motorcycle mechanic in that regard.Give me computers and injectors any day - quite frankly I can diagnose them easier than carbs now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motu
    ..Multiple carbs are worse,and I don't envy a motorcycle mechanic in that regard...
    Triple dual throat Webers on a Jag can be fun too.

    It's all the emission stuff that makes carbs hard, and most bikes don't have much of that. My Pajero has a carb that has more pipes and incomprehensible crap on it than any carb has any right to have. I daren't even look in its direction or I'll start feeling ill, and be forced (for purely medicinal reasons, as I explain to Mrs Ixion) to go for a long ride.

    Amal monobloc, can't go wrong with those. Balance 'em with a bit of hose listening to the hiss!
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion
    Triple dual throat Webers on a Jag can be fun too.
    Try an early 1970's Porsche 911. Twice that.
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

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