Speeding

[wbks]

I wanted something with more acceleration.

I'm curious about your last statement. So how are you more likely to die travelling at 100km/h than 120km/h, that you say is a fact? What have you based this "fact" on?

Probably on the arguable point that doing 100 on anything over 250cc's is quite boring, and you spend more time glancing at the speedo trying to keep it at 100 than you watch the road

[Morcs]

Probably on the arguable point that doing 100 on anything over 250cc's is quite boring, and you spend more time glancing at the speedo trying to keep it at 100 than you do on the road

Agreed

I wanted something with more acceleration.

I'm curious about your last statement. So how are you more likely to die travelling at 100km/h than 120km/h, that you say is a fact? What have you based this "fact" on?

You obviously havent spent much time over 200. Its simply impossible to keep the mind occupied at 100kph as everything is happening too slowly. You lose concerntration, which increases chance for error. Of course its arguable that when that happens, you arent at high speed so its going to hurt less, but its negligable as its still gonna hurt.

Faster acceleration? So you need to get from 0 to 100 in 3 seconds? doing that everywhere is unsafer than sitting at a constant high speed.

[ManDownUnder]

A thinking man's thread... bloody good stuff Morcs.

I think it's a case of been there done that nothing left to prove for me.

I'm not king of the hill in terms of speed and riding - I know it. I have nothing left to prove to myself and am quite capable of going for a decent blat when the mood takes me, and I thoroughly enjoy it when the mood strikes.

I also have 3 gorgeous little people to come home to and for me that does moderate things a bit. It's a view of the world you genuinely will never understand until you get there.

The "you do the crime you do the time" aspect of things is simply maturity. No point bitching about it if you knew the rules and broke them without good reason. Manning up to your responsibilities in respect of a fair cop is part of being adult. To put it bluntly those that don't are either shirkers (wanting a fun easy life without paying for it) or childish in the sense that "I'll get away with it... or get let off".

You'll find the law is heartless in that respect. It doesn't care so much what the reason was, unless there is a greater good being served. Doing 200 kph down the motorway is bad if you're out for a blast... it's good if you have a life and death situation and you're rushing them to hospital.

[ManDownUnder]

I'm curious about your last statement. So how are you more likely to die travelling at 100km/h than 120km/h, that you say is a fact? What have you based this "fact" on?

umm - what?

Common sense says you get 100/120ths of the reaction time should anything happen... so the chances of a random "oopsie" having an effect are increased. by 20%

Physics says that you have 44% more kinetic energy at 120 than at 100 so that oopsie just got a lot more painful with an increased likelihood of being terminal, especially if that ebergy gets imparted to you all at once (i.e. are stopped by a tree rather than the friction of the tarseal).

[Morcs]

A thinking man's thread... bloody good stuff Morcs.

I think it's a case of been there done that nothing left to prove for me.

I'm not king of the hill in terms of speed and riding - I know it. I have nothing left to prove to myself and am quite capable of going for a decent blat when the mood takes me, and I thoroughly enjoy it when the mood strikes.

I also have 3 gorgeous little people to come home to and for me that does moderate things a bit. It's a view of the world you genuinely will never understand until you get there.

The "you do the crime you do the time" aspect of things is simply maturity. No point bitching about it if you knew the rules and broke them without good reason. Manning up to your responsibilities in respect of a fair cop is part of being adult. To put it bluntly those that don't are either shirkers wanting a fun easy life without paying for it) or childish in the sense that "I'll get away with it... or get let off".

You'll find the law is heartless in that respect. It doesn't care so much what the reason was, unless there is a greater good being served. doing 200 kph down the motorway is bad if you're out for a blast... it's good if you have a life and death situation and you're rushing them to hospital.

Agree with all your points Nigel.

Though im not talking about going balls to the wall everywhere, or egos or whatnot, just wondering what the story is with all the people that seem to disagree quite strongly with doing reasonable speeds (like 120) - I believe at that sort of speed, reasons for not speeding (now talking higher speed, 140+) such as, previous crashes, license losses, kids etc.. I feel dont apply.

[ManDownUnder]

Agree with all your points Nigel.

Though im not talking about going balls to the wall everywhere, or egos or whatnot, just wondering what the story is with all the people that seem to disagree quite strongly with doing reasonable speeds (like 120) - I believe at that sort of speed, reasons for not speeding (now talking higher speed, 140+) such as, previous crashes, license losses, kids etc.. I feel dont apply.

aaaa gotcha. Then I'd say it's people that need external rules in their own lives expecting others to need the same. They tend to stand out by being involved in organised... "stuff"

Church, committees, etc

[Morcs]

umm - what?

Common sense says you get 100/120ths of the reaction time should anything happen... so the chances of a random "oopsie" having an effect are increased. by 20%

Physics says that you have 44% more kinetic energy at 120 than at 100 so that oopsie just got a lot more painful with an increased likelihood of being terminal, especially if that ebergy gets imparted to you all at once (i.e. are stopped by a tree rather than the friction of the tarseal).

Depends on your reaction times - yes the faster you go, the bigger the mess, but when you become attuned to riding a higher speeds, 100kph is bloody dangerous!

On a bike, id estimate to be comfortable at doing 150 as I am doing 100 in a cage. The size of a motorcycle gives an increased feel of awareness around it, as well as the riding position giving you a much more focused mentality than in a car.

[wbks]

Maybe it's one of those things where people feel the need to show how much better they are than everyone else. The one that goes out of their way to show how not-racist they are, how respectful they are to the law, how caring they are towards the new generation of children (R18 channel comes on sky="OMG wont somebody please think of teh children!!!")... I think everyone knows the type... They're usually in every church, committee or BOT within an 8 hour drive of their house

[ManDownUnder]

Depends on your reaction times - yes the faster you go, the bigger the mess, but when you become attuned to riding a higher speeds, 100kph is bloody dangerous!

For you, or for the others sharing the tarseal with you?

[Morcs]

aaaa gotcha. Then I'd say it's people that need extwernal rules in their own lives expecting others to need the same. They tend to stand out by being involved in organised... "stuff"

Church, committees, etc

Maybe it's one of those things where people feel the need to show how much better they are than everyone else. The one that goes out of their way to show how not-racist they are, how respectful they are to the law, how caring they are towards the new generation of children (R18 channel comes on sky="OMG wont somebody please think of teh children!!!")... I think everyone knows the type...

Nail on the head.

Wonder if we can group them together so we can ban them from sections of the forum , just for those who want to speak about certain stuff knowing damn well the consequences without threads being invaded by these people who feel compelled to point out the obvious...
I think it should be classed as spam to go into a 'I got a ticket today thread' and tell them they shouldntve been speeding. Well Duh!

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Only a few people say Dont speed.

Slightly more say Dont break the law. (You do realise that speeding is breaking a rule rather than a law?)

Most say Do the crime pay the fine.

I'm intriqued as to why you would lump all those people into one single group?

yup... most also say time and place... and if you get court don't come on here whinging about it... we all do it...

I just never admit that I do... I'm not that stupid

I think it's a case of been there done that nothing left to prove for me..

Same here been there done that got the t-shirt... meh so what

[NDORFN]

umm - what?

Common sense says you get 100/120ths of the reaction time should anything happen... so the chances of a random "oopsie" having an effect are increased. by 20%

Physics says that you have 44% more kinetic energy at 120 than at 100 so that oopsie just got a lot more painful with an increased likelihood of being terminal, especially if that ebergy gets imparted to you all at once (i.e. are stopped by a tree rather than the friction of the tarseal).

If there's 44% more kinetic energy at 120 than 100, how much less is there at 80?

[firefighter]

Public roads are created for the good of the majority of the public, and as a result, are subject to crown laws to protect the good of the majority of the public.

Jesus you come up with some dribble!

You have'nt answered the mans question, just continued on with the same old bahlshit trollop. He was asking why people give particular responses to the speeding ticket/etc threads- not why is it illegal to speed.........

Then of course, you can just buy your land, build your own track on it, have your own rules, and do what you want. So if you have the money to pay the fine for the crime, why not just build your own private facility, and keep everyone else on public roads safe?

Who the fuck has a spare something million to spend on building a track!?WTF? lol.

[ManDownUnder]

If there's 44% more kinetic energy at 120 than 100, how much less is there at 80?

36% less than if you are doing 100.

[slimjim]

[QUOTE=Jantar;1129430214]Only a few people say Dont speed.

Well my Dad, never speed, gee's even to this day, he still drives at 83,always legal speed always and not even mum would ask him to speed-overtake,
however he has tophies and cups from dirt tracking solo,jawa 350, and speed way, midget owner and driver and agrade engineer, yet he has never sped on the road,me nearly 50 , different story lol