250s VS 600+?

[imdying]

WRONG!!! Nothing like the buzz of a triple between your legs!!

You can get a two stroke triple if that's what tickles your fancy... but you're still better off with a twin

[ckai]

You can get a two stroke triple if that's what tickles your fancy... but you're still better off with a twin

shit really??? Can you imagine the noise hahah

[R6_kid:Me]

shit really??? Can you imagine the noise hahah

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[RDjase]

I'm not a hard rider on the road no matter what bike, but I noticed today that around any decent corners (which is where fun is, don't really care for top speeds) I never actually go over half or 3/4 throttle, and less than that is enough to be going way too fast than is safe once things start revving. Kind of makes things boring: Brake into corner-lean-roll on gas out of it, repeat... Compared to ringing the shit out of any 250 but still being barely above legal speeds on the same piece of road... Up and down through gears, knee skimming, braking as hard as 20 y/o calipers will, and still only doing 120 or so through twisties and having fun compared to riding "relaxed" and 200 comes up too fast despite riding like a nanna through corners. Beginning to think maybe I shifted to a big bike too soon, but I still enjoy the torque and modern gauges/chassis/susp. Any of you ever felt like that? Advice?

I have more fun on my RD350 than on my ducati, the old 2stroke gives me great grin factor and you have to work the gearbox to keeps it humming. The duke does everything to easy , but i still like it if im feeling lazy. Bit if a waste of a duke when I ride my 29 year old Rd more lol

[vtec]

Best bikes I've had were the CBR250RR and the RGV250. I've spent time on Hayabusa's and CBR600RR's. The CBR250RR is just so damn nimble, and the power is just right for road use, the ultimate lane splitter. The RGV was a sweet ride when it was working which was rare.

The modern 600's with fuel injection etc some of those models will be nearly as nimble as the CBR250RR though. It's a matter of test riding a few to find a good one. Last time I rode sketchy's k4 (at the endurance race) with standard suspension, I loved the way it handled. There's good 600's and rubbish 600's and it's not always immediately apparent. I really didn't like my 03-04 CBR600RR's and I'm a big Honda fan, I think in 07 they really jumped leaps and bounds.

[wbks]

Basically, the bottom line is always the same... 2 strokes are where it's at for sports bikes, 4 strokes are, and always have been, wrong.

So I suppose you would advocate trading in for this one, then...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=246793896

[gatch]

Best bikes I've had were the CBR250RR and the RGV250.

But but you own a vfr ? No comprehende senor ?

I've ridden a few bikes, big and small, slow and fast, but think I'm on the right on for now. Enough power to lose your license in any zone, can hit 100k in first, and would PROBABLY out handle most 600s on the market. I dunno why you'd need more ?

[DMNTD:Me]

I dunno why you'd need more ?

Torque IMO...far easier to ride on Kiwi roads when you have torque at your wrist.
Plus as a couple of others have already mentioned it's freaking FUN to have the extra hp too

[gatch]

Torque IMO...far easier to ride on Kiwi roads when you have torque at your wrist.
Plus as a couple of others have already mentioned it's freaking FUN to have the extra hp too

Need man, NEED.

If your bike is slower than the average car, than you need more hp/torque.

But yes, some extra ponies does increase the smile factor somewhat.

[ital916]

Would be nice to be able to chuck it into top gear and have all the power you need on tap. Rowing the gearbox constantly or sitting at the rev limiter for long tours aint fun.

[discotex]

hard to beat the small bikes for fun on the twisties..
A 250 or 400 riden well on the twisties will put most bigger bikes to shame..

Not at all. It's all the rider not the bike. A modern 600 supersport is the same weight as a 250 with three times the power, a bigger contact patch and infinitely better suspension and ground clearance.

A fast rider on a 250 can out-corner an average rider on a 600 but not the other way around.

[PrincessBandit]

Not at all. It's all the rider not the bike. A modern 600 supersport is the same weight as a 250 with three times the power, a bigger contact patch and infinitely better suspension and ground clearance.

A fast rider on a 250 can out-corner an average rider on a 600 but not the other way around.

Makes sense. I would push my gn (yeah, I know grunt machine [not!]) much harder than I'd ever try doing with the bandit. However a good rider on my bike would get great speed from it going through twisties etc. I like the light weight of the gn, but the heavier bandit definitely has advantages too. (Just not when I have to pick it up...)

[Pussy]

Makes sense. I would push my gn (yeah, I know grunt machine [not!]) much harder than I'd ever try doing with the bandit. However a good rider on my bike would get great speed from it going through twisties etc. I like the light weight of the gn, but the heavier bandit definitely has advantages too. (Just not when I have to pick it up...)

.... And your Bandit has a silky smooth engine, PB. Possibly the nicest fuelling bike I have ever ridden

[Bend-it]

Yeah, a 600-ish twin sounds like the answer... narrow, torquey, no need the million hp... just fat torque from low down... Mmmm...

I know what you mean about the faster but slower bikes... between my 2 bikes, 650vtwin cagiva raptor, 70hp and my 1000cc zx10r with 185hp, I generally ride my cagiva faster just 'coz I'm more comfortable on it!

But that's just 'coz I'm a nana... someone else could really enjoy the big kwaka... so buy it!!! link in my sig below

[wbks]

Of course a lot of people think they or someone they know is one of these good riders on a 250 just because they ring the nuts off of it. It's not hard to spend most of your time full throttle at 14,000rpm on one