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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodger View Post
    I was more hoping that National was going to ditch ACC and privatise the whole system.
    Ha!
    "Some people are like clouds, once they fuck off, it's a great day!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Doesn't matter. Motorcyclists have just been served. We've been singled out for decades and no effective political opposition was ever organised. This is the price.
    ーThank you James , it been what I have been wittering on about for years

    No after horse has bolted and your faced with a 700 dollar bill

    you cry boo hoo

    Good luck

    I am alright I stored my food for the winter

    Stephen

    See this thread

    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...d.php?t=109646

    PPS you voted for them ..... we said nooo don't do it , but ya just had to carry on , now look at the mess you have caused .....
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    Having not read all the posts this may have been mentioned already...

    Looking at new registrations for July 2009 here is a breakdown of the most popular CC ratings:

    Under 60CC: 184
    61 - 125CC: 51
    126 - 250CC: 67
    251 - 400CC: 6
    401 - 750CC: 52
    751 - 1100CC: 63
    1101+ CC: 79

    If you combine the 751 - 1101+ CC catergories you get a total of 142.
    If you add onto that an estimated portion of motorcycles that are 600 +CC it could be 172 total (est).

    With this in mind, doesn't it make sense to target this portion of the market?
    More revenue.

    Of course this is based on new registrations and not the total registrations that are gathered for older bikes also.

    I know that the under 60CC catergory is larger than the total generated from the bigger capacity machines, but do you really think that cheaper running can be marketed if the registration fee for a scooter is hiked too much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gubb View Post
    ...... Didn't you wheelie into a parked car?
    Yes but I was asking for it. Bit different to people who cant get around corners.
    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaNanna View Post
    Wasn't me officer, honest, it was that morcs guy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Littleman View Post
    Yeah I do recall, but dismissed it as being you when I saw both wheels on the ground.
    Quote Originally Posted by R6_kid View Post
    lulz, ever ridden a TL1000R? More to the point, ever ridden with teh Morcs? Didn't fink so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    I might also be tempting the devil, but I aint had a vehicular accident for over 35 years. Where's my NCB??
    I was thinking exactly the same thing.

    Punish people on CC rating is friggin ridiculous - jeez I can walk faster than the Hardley can go around most corners so am not really a risk out there!

    Well not as much risk as a young fella on a sports bike I dont think

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    I can't see why an 800cc cruiser should pay more than a 250cc sports bike.

    That guy with the electric Daytona must be laughing his head off

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    So when does it come into play? everyone should make sure they buy a years rego prior.

    I think the whole industry and community needs to get behind this somehow.

    Bike sales will drop drastically. Bikes with no wof/rego will rise. People doing runners will rise. And us people who use motorcycles for enjoyment and convenience whilst reducing the clogging of motorways and carbon footprint get shafted.

    ACC cover should be a tick box on the rego. If you want it, tick the box and pay for it. If you dont, then dont tick the box and pay for it. That way people with their own health plans dont have to pay someone elses medical bills.

    Whats the point of ACC when you die waiting for treatment due to the queue of people with runny noses?
    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaNanna View Post
    Wasn't me officer, honest, it was that morcs guy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Littleman View Post
    Yeah I do recall, but dismissed it as being you when I saw both wheels on the ground.
    Quote Originally Posted by R6_kid View Post
    lulz, ever ridden a TL1000R? More to the point, ever ridden with teh Morcs? Didn't fink so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lanci View Post
    For me it's up from $250 odd to $750 odd... Fuck me that's quite a rise!
    I have a 660 cc bike with 47hp as a commuter. That's going, may as well get a 600 with 100hp now.

    My ACC isn't going up by $500.00, but by $1,000.00 as I have 2 bikes over 600cc, but the risk is no greater than having one, but wait there's more, I have a car too - that's user pays I guess.

    For years I was a member of BRONZ to try and protect our rights, few gave a fuck about protecting our rights - who gives a fuck now?
    Quite a few it seems.
    Perhaps we should all look to Dipshit for guidance in this matter.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tank
    You say "no one wants to fuck with some large bloke on a really angry sounding bike" but the truth of the matter is that you are a balding middle-aged ice-cream seller from Edgecume who wears a hello kitty t-shirt (in your profile pic) and your angry sounding bike is a fucken hyoshit - not some big assed harley with a human skull on the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morcs View Post
    ACC cover should be a tick box on the rego. If you want it, tick the box and pay for it. If you dont, then dont tick the box and pay for it. That way people with their own health plans dont have to pay someone elses medical bills.
    +1. I have no bling to give out! Just try not to crash!

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    You gotta feel the pain of a 636 owner who considered a 600r.
    I have evolved as a KB member.Now nothing I say should be taken seriously.

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    However this is just a 'proposal' so nothing TOO serious.
    maybe just a proposal... but we need to still act on it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by grbaker View Post
    Not Labour weekend..... Rush hour on a Business Day. You got to F someone off to make a point
    Or rush hour when people are all going on holiday and back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody2 View Post
    I have just emailed my local MP Hekia Parata and cc Nick Smith and mentioned my extreme dissatisfaction - National party website has all MPs addresses. I'm will also be up for any Wellington Protest ride!

    Cheers Daryl.
    Postal is always free to wellington Freepost something or other

    Now ya wont want half a million poorly writted submissions all saying different things

    you want individual letters saying the SAME thing

    and for that you need a form letter ( written by the royal smart person )

    Copy it out then stick it on EVERY bike seat you can find including the details of how they can cut and paste to email the same letter


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    I believe that the time for action is upon us.

    I would also suggest that the kiddies with the "lets send letterbombs to the bee-hive" suggestions (yes, I do realise they're not serious) should shut the fuck up and let the grown ups figure this one out.

    I will try to make it to the BRONZ meeting on Wednesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynameis View Post
    Come ooooon you all voted National in.
    Speak for yerself buddy...

    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    They bailed out Air NZ...why doesn't the Govt bail out ACC which is Govt owned.
    It's an ideologcal burp. They're not interested in saving ACC, they're doing all they can to manufacture a crisis so they can break it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ital916 View Post
    Auckland mayor banksy has like three bikes all over 1000cc, he should be on our side with this one.
    Difference is he can afford his 3x$750 without blinking.

    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Actually, I think the time for mass wheelies is upon us.
    Quote Originally Posted by kave View Post
    A lame protest ride will be insufficient....Fuck being law abiding, we need the politicians to pay attention.
    Quote Originally Posted by Maki View Post
    Get real. If you want to get somewhere you have to PISS PEOPLE OFF.
    Revolution is required, although I wonder if we have the scrote for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rev DJ View Post
    Some commentators are arguing that ACC is NOT BROKEN - so why is the govt trying to fix it?? Ah, politics...
    See above. It's short-sighted stoopid ideology at work. And most people will be taken in by it. Go read the other ACC thread, you'll see what I mean.

    Quote Originally Posted by grbaker View Post
    This National govt is worse than Labour... by a long shot IMHO
    It's a tough call as they are both shit but I reckon you're right in this case.
    Redefining slow since 2006...

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