Well bikers are screwed - ACC levy

**AllanB** · 14th October 2009, 16:40

Governments are sneaky - they can release statements like say Motorcycle rego will go up to $800 pa. Then months later say well we reviewed all the letters and we will only increase it to $550 - the motorcycle community collectively pat themselves on the back and make numerous posts on KB stating how 'we got the bastards' then happily shell out the $ for rego.

ps I blame Helen Clark.......

**rogson** · 14th October 2009, 16:40

I have a number of bikes - but I can only ride one at a time. I'd be comfortable paying more personal injury insurance - but why should I pay it on all of my bikes - after-all its me not my bikes that is being insured.

Also, if it is going to be user pays I expect motorcyclists will now get a discount on petrol and the non-ACC part of the rego and will pay lower income taxes - after-all we don't need 6 lane motorways, etc to drive on.

**duckonin** · 14th October 2009, 16:41

ACC is this National Governments big cash COW, and yep Ladies and Gentlemen Keys Nat party is going to milk us dry..ACC is the year 2010 new tax take..

ACC had big investments that have turned to shit, or devalued since the USA went down for trillions, Keys told his henchmen to sell the sad story to the NZ public "ACC is broke", the worst part is the public believe it, for "Keys has spoken"...

**AllanB** · 14th October 2009, 16:42

Originally Posted by zeocen

II'll be bringing my wife-raping-drug-dealing-p-addicted Hornet 919 to the party.

I got that fixed under warranty on my Hornet, now it only gives the occasional blow-job and has a bad coffee habit.

**Trudes** · 14th October 2009, 16:43

I haven't been to a bike rally yet, can we have one on the Parliament lawn? Have a bon fire, do some stunts, wet t shirt comp, etc etc and every 10 mins we all start up our bikes and rev the snot out if them and then go back to our fire and beers. Have tent, will travel and camp. It'll be fun!!!

**Bonez** · 14th October 2009, 16:43

How many KBers are sucking the ACC cow, go racing and are quite capable of doing a 40 hour week at work?

**McJim** · 14th October 2009, 16:43

Can they increase the levies by 3 times on modified cars? They crash Waaaay more often then bikes.

**Indiana_Jones** · 14th October 2009, 16:43

I think rule 303 needs to be applied to Nick smith

-Indy

**phred** · 14th October 2009, 16:44

Originally Posted by PirateJafa

Right, if nobody else will, I'll organise a fucking Hikoi down to Parliament against this bullshit.

Fuck upcoming exams, this is pricing us off the road, and in doing so is impinging upon my rights. I'm not going to fucking stand for it.

Edit: The cunts are meant to be encouraging the use of more environmentally friendly transport for fuck's sake.

SO when and where's the protest then? Count me in. I finally get a bigger bike and now I can't afford to run the bastard thing. I haven't yet heard of any insurance scheme that bloody works Doesn't matter whether it's tarted up as superannuation or ACC or whatever the premiums get out of control and you try and get the pay out you expected.....Rastus where's ma gun ah needs ta shoot me some federalis.

**Elysium** · 14th October 2009, 16:45

Originally Posted by Trudes

I haven't been to a bike rally yet, can we have one on the Parliament lawn? Have a bon fire, do some stunts, wet t shirt comp, etc etc and every 10 mins we all start up our bikes and rev the snot out if them and then go back to our fire and beers. Have tent, will travel and camp. It'll be fun!!!

If you want stunts, better give the Mormon boys a call.

**Pixie** · 14th October 2009, 16:45

Originally Posted by spmcg

Remember these rises are proposal by ACC. One thing we can do is to make submissions to ACC (see elsewhere in this thread). That is the bureaucratic portion. The final decision is however a political one.

ACC will make submissions to the Minister, the Hon Dr Nick Smith. Aside from making a submission it is also important for each one of us to email Dr Smith:

(N.Smith@ministers.govt.nz
and also for those of you in his electorate, nick@nick4nelson.co.nz)

I have already done so and if its helpful here's a template that you can adapt (I have multiple bikes):

"I read today reports regarding changes to ACC, in particular the increases in ACC levy for motorcycles. For myself, owner of [insert number or type of bike with engine size, e.g., "two motorcycles both over 600cc"], the increase[s] amount[s] to $493.08 [per motorcycle, or a total of $986.16 per annum to owners of two over 600cc: adjust as required]. This for a person that has private vehicle insurance and no previous ACC claims and who uses motorcycles for leisure [adjust for your situation].

I am sure that some motorcycle riders are at a high risk of accident; the appropriate method to ensure that they pay their fair share is to target by demographic rather than use a blunt tool such as engine capacity. I also note that there is no levy whatsoever proposed for casual players of sports such as rugby, despite their high risk of accident. Nor is there any concrete proposal to limit the increases you propose I should bear by reference to my driving or claim record.

I am disappointed at this proposal and write to advise you and your colleagues that if this comes to pass the National Party loses my vote in perpetuity. I am simply appalled that you feel I should pay [adjust as required (in my case "close to an extra one thousand")] dollars per annum for nothing.

I shall also encourage others to take the same stance; the sort of people that can afford large capacity motorcycles also being within the demographic that traditionally supports your party."

Add any other points you want to make. I suggest keeping it civil. You will get an autobot reply. Don't expect a personal reply - the aim here is to impress with sheer numbers, so encourage others to email as well. Those in the trade should also email their local MP and probably also the PM, pointing out the threat to business from this move.

How about this email:
Dear Dr Smith
Fuck ACC.Fuck it in the arse with a big rubber dick.
Then break it off and beat it to death with the broken end

**sunhuntin** · 14th October 2009, 16:46

well, im all up for a protest ride. just name the time and the date and i will skip work for a day or two to attend.

however, if that doesnt work and the fees still go up, ill be saying goodbye to miss texas jane and putting her back in the showroom. which will be like cutting an arm or leg off.

**zahria** · 14th October 2009, 16:46

Originally Posted by PirateJafa

Right, if nobody else will, I'll organise a fucking Hikoi down to Parliament against this bullshit.

Fuck upcoming exams, this is pricing us off the road, and in doing so is impinging upon my rights. I'm not going to fucking stand for it.

Edit: The cunts are meant to be encouraging the use of more environmentally friendly transport for fuck's sake.

I agree. I'll be there.

**rosie631** · 14th October 2009, 16:47

Originally Posted by Trudes

I haven't been to a bike rally yet, can we have one on the Parliament lawn? Have a bon fire, do some stunts, wet t shirt comp, etc etc and every 10 mins we all start up our bikes and rev the snot out if them and then go back to our fire and beers. Have tent, will travel and camp. It'll be fun!!!

I'll be there. One big rally outside parliament instead of small regional protests. Central, so we can ALL get there.