Well bikers are screwed - ACC levy

[Reckless]

I knew a guy that owed 14tho in fines years ago.He opted for 7 days in jail for it to be cleared and they let him out in 4 days for good behavior.

Bloody hell Mossy $3750-00 per day! Where's the bloody line in the sand there??
Bet it wasn't even real jail one of those min security camp outs!!

[Reckless]

wheres the offroad motorcycles other than atvs?

Hey back off!!

we never fall off LOL!!!

BTW if this goes through I'll be paying well enough for my off road stuff within my on road rego!!!!
Go see the other sports and stop picking on us bikers, Most off roaders do both that I know!!

[Swoop]

Firstly - Is everyone forgetting that this is a catch up of a black hole covered up by labour. Petitioning national about it will do didly squat. ACC got f@cked under labour governance - any private company would not have been allowed to get this far into the red. The situation of the black hole still stands whether NZ likes it or not.

In simple terms it seems that you can get an NZ license from your favourite cereal packet.

Pointing out to people that labour had a big spend-up before being ousted, causes them to go quiet.

The standards of driver skills and ease of obtaining a licence, have fallen on deaf ears in any gubbinment...
It is easier to tax than to do anything constructive and actually improve society.

[mossy1200]

Bloody hell Mossy $3750-00 per day! Where's the bloody line in the sand there??
Bet it wasn't even real jail one of those min security camp outs!!

No it was Dunedin jail but he got to take his telly etc after it had been checked over by tech for drugs and watched sky in his cell all day.he knew a few guys in there so got to catch up with mates.Said it was a great break from the missus.
He had been in before and they had given him a month for fighting.That time they put him in the week before xmas but let everyone who had less than 2months left out so was there for 6 days out of the month sentence.This countries a joke.

[Reckless]

.Said it was a great break from the missus.

Now there's a good idea!! Don't pay any rego, get a break from her indoors every couple of years as well!! Primo!

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

If I pay ACC in my REGO, as well as ACC in PAYE, as well as in fuel that I use... surely this is more than my share of the total fund for the year, not matter what I ride, do or play? and as I have said over 25 years or work and PAYE, and rego fees, fuel, with out a claim my share is how much??? the more k's I do the more I pay for ACC... and of course how many k's have I done in 25 years (a hell of a lot)

The figures they have is that just saying they collect from rego's where the short fall is? Surely they wouldn't know how much I truly pay in ACC unless I keep all my reciepts for fuel for a year...

I don't know please enlighten me on that

[chelseapar]

just no pay license. police no shoot for stop for NZ. Police shoot for stop for bolivia

change make govnerment no words. must gain lot people for change. play protestation for change

[Reckless]

If I pay ACC in my REGO, as well as ACC in PAYE, as well as a little bit in fuel that I use... surely this is more than my share of the total fund for the year, not matter what I ride, do or play? and as I have said over 25 years or work and PAYE, and rego fees, fuel, with out a claim my share is how much...

the figures they have is that just saying they collect from rego where the short fall is?

I don't know please enlighten me on that

Cause they let the system get screwed up! Every damn Physio out there has signs saying FREE treatment on ACC, Lots of doctors put things on ACC!!, They pay out lumps sums for people jumping over prison walls! The system doesn't charge all users evenly!!

The tail is wagging the dog!!

and BIKERS have to PAY!

[Badjelly]

Out of those "16 times more likely" accidents how many are due to faults by cars.

Roughly half. Nowhere near 15/16. You & I have chosen a relatively dangerous means of transport.

[WuZards-Eugene]

...Three-quarters of all motorcycle injury accidents happen on urban roads. But more than two-thirds of fatal crashes are on the open road. These crashes tend to involve larger bikes travelling at higher speeds - often at intersections where oncoming motorcyclists are often overlooked.

Alright, we need to see some action. First thing we should start on is this myth that smaller bikes are at less risk of fatal accidents . We need volunteers to ride on the open road on small capacity bikes and have fatal accidents to even this out .

Who's in??

[5150]

There should be a petition at every motorcycle shop right now to be signed and then delivered to the parliament during our protest ride.. We as a motorcycle community from every corner should all get behind this. If we let them get away this time, they only going to screw us more next time.

[DangerMice]

Fuck me, 440% increase in rego on my little scoot. What's the bet the fine for no rego goes up to $1000? Wankers.

[Dodger]

Does it really matter about the whole 16 times more likely etc?

Something that has been kicked around the office today:
ACC an equal compensation organisation cattering for all New Zealanders.

So why is just one group getting stung? shouldn't the cost be split between all? Maybe as an increase to to GST? and not just to road users?

[DangerMice]

it's no longer a "no fault" system, it's a "your fault for riding a bike" system.

EDIT: or should that be "no fault UNLESS you're riding a bike" system cause sports people etc are laughing aren't they.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Does it really matter about the whole 16 times more likely etc?

Something that has been kicked around the office today:
ACC an equal compensation organisation cattering for all New Zealanders.

So why is just one group getting stung? shouldn't the cost be split between all? Maybe as an increase to to GST? and not just to road users?

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