Page 1 of 30 12311 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 436

Thread: ACC Levies. BRONZ meeting

  1. #1
    Join Date
    26th February 2005 - 15:10
    Bike
    Ubrfarter V Klunkn,ffwabbit,Petal,phoebe
    Location
    In the cave of Adullam
    Posts
    13,624

    ACC Levies. BRONZ meeting

    Next BRONZ (Auckland) meeting is 21st Oct.

    7:30 pm . Rockridge Road, Penrose. Place is called the Danish House. Parking out front.

    Major agenda item will , of course, be ACC levies, and possible responses to them. It'd be nice to see a few more than the half dozen stalwarts there. But I'm not holding my breath.

    If there is a good attendance, the Chairman will be enforcing rather more of a formal meeting process than usual, just to stop things getting out of hands.

    A few ground rules for said meeting may as well be played through now:

    1. We all know it's evil and unfair. No point preaching to the choir. So, no speeches along those lines. (Just because of time constraints)
    2. We all know that bike accidents are caused by cagers. Or not. So unless you have evidence none of us know about, again, no preaching to the choir.
    3. Personally, I'm receptive to direct action. But some degree of realism is required. So no explosives etc
    4. What IS required is reasons WHY we shouldn't pay what ACC *claim* we cost. Factual. Specific. So if you know something, or you are good at crunching statistics, that might be useful.
    5. If it does come to something formal, only financial paid up BRONZ members get to vote (though I wouldn't expect such formality).
    6. We aren't going to convince the Government to abolish ACC, or totally change the way it operates. Politics is the art of the possible. So the chairman will cut short any discussions along such lines. Which includes philosophical debate on whether ACC should be privatised or not.

    The chairman (I'm told) is a grumpy old cunt. Try not to rile him too much.

    BRONZ (Wellington) does not exist . So if anyone can volunteer to coordinate matters in the capital, that might be good.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

  2. #2
    Join Date
    14th October 2007 - 18:13
    Bike
    2013 GSXR-1300 Hayabusa
    Location
    Up above the mucky muck
    Posts
    2,480
    I do hope there will be a good turnout. Not much gets me protesting but this really grinds my gears. An increase in ACC levies was expected but not to that amount.

    Is cash on the night accepted for membership?

  3. #3
    Join Date
    30th August 2006 - 21:44
    Bike
    Triple Delight
    Location
    Mangakino
    Posts
    7,041
    Quote Originally Posted by ital916 View Post
    I do hope there will be a good turnout. Not much gets me protesting but this really grinds my gears. An increase in ACC levies was expected but not to that amount.

    Is cash on the night accepted for membership?
    Actually that is a very good question, Ixion, perhaps your treasurer will want to bring his/her receipt book along
    Quote Originally Posted by Gubb View Post
    Nonono,

    He rides the Leprachhaun at the end of the Rainbow. Usually goes by the name Anne McMommus

  4. #4
    Join Date
    26th February 2005 - 15:10
    Bike
    Ubrfarter V Klunkn,ffwabbit,Petal,phoebe
    Location
    In the cave of Adullam
    Posts
    13,624
    [QUOTE=ital916;1129456309..
    Is cash on the night accepted for membership?[/QUOTE]

    Sure is .
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

  5. #5
    Join Date
    30th August 2006 - 21:44
    Bike
    Triple Delight
    Location
    Mangakino
    Posts
    7,041
    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Sure is .
    Out of interest, what is the sub?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gubb View Post
    Nonono,

    He rides the Leprachhaun at the end of the Rainbow. Usually goes by the name Anne McMommus

  6. #6
    Join Date
    21st August 2004 - 12:00
    Bike
    2017 Suzuki Dl1000
    Location
    Picton
    Posts
    5,162
    Ixion,

    Can you supply contact details, and BRONZ meeting dates for all venues around New Zealand.

    I can't come up to Auckland next week for a meeting, but I will certainly go to Dunedin or Christchurch for something this important.

    I will support a nationwide ride on Parliament (clogging the Wellington motorways) as a first step.
    Time to ride

  7. #7
    Join Date
    18th December 2008 - 18:47
    Bike
    XV 535
    Location
    Epsomish
    Posts
    1,156
    Blog Entries
    2
    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    I will support a nationwide ride on Parliament (clogging the Wellington motorways) as a first step.
    Myself included
    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    you dont get 180+ hp out of 998cc by being nice to trees.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    15th March 2004 - 13:00
    Bike
    Austrian and Italian
    Location
    Glenfield, Auckland
    Posts
    4,687
    This is going in my calendar.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    19th September 2006 - 22:02
    Bike
    02 Ducati ST4s
    Location
    Here there everywhere
    Posts
    5,458
    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    Ixion,

    Can you supply contact details, and BRONZ meeting dates for all venues around New Zealand.

    I can't come up to Auckland next week for a meeting, but I will certainly go to Dunedin or Christchurch for something this important.

    I will support a nationwide ride on Parliament (clogging the Wellington motorways) as a first step.
    I'll will probably go to a Dunedin BRONZ memeting... and would support the protest ride if I could get time of work and afford the ferry...

    BRONZ Otago http://bronzotago.co.nz/

  10. #10
    Join Date
    26th February 2005 - 15:10
    Bike
    Ubrfarter V Klunkn,ffwabbit,Petal,phoebe
    Location
    In the cave of Adullam
    Posts
    13,624
    $20 per person, or $30 per family. Per year.

    The various regional BRONZ chapters work semi independantly, BRONZ national is just a policy and coordination thing.

    BRONZ Timaru and BRONZ Otago will doubtless be considering their response, but I don't know what it is at present.

    Contact details for all regions are on the BRONZ website
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

  11. #11
    Join Date
    27th February 2009 - 21:51
    Bike
    A Thumper
    Location
    Waikato
    Posts
    29
    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    $20 per person, or $30 per family. Per year.

    BRONZ website
    Wow that's so cheap it's not even 3% of the proposed acc levies for over 600cc bikes

  12. #12
    Join Date
    5th February 2008 - 13:07
    Bike
    2006 Hyosung GT650R
    Location
    BOP
    Posts
    7,141
    Quote Originally Posted by ital916 View Post
    Is cash on the night accepted for membership?
    Cash on the night is universally accepted, son.

    Everywhere you go, cash on the night is the bizo.

    Steve
    "I am a licenced motorcycle instructor, I agree with dangerousbastard, no point in repeating what he said."
    "read what Steve says. He's right."
    "What Steve said pretty much summed it up."
    "I did axactly as you said and it worked...!!"
    "Wow, Great advise there DB."
    WTB: Hyosung bikes or going or not.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    25th July 2007 - 19:27
    Bike
    2007 XB12R. 2000 M900S
    Location
    Tauranga
    Posts
    803
    Call you local MP in protest, leave a message if you cannot get through !

  14. #14
    Join Date
    13th April 2005 - 12:00
    Bike
    Enfield cr250r
    Location
    Tokyo
    Posts
    3,420
    Blog Entries
    3
    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Next BRONZ (Auckland ) meeting is 21st Oct.

    7:30 pm . Rockridge Road, Penrose. Place is called the Danish House. Parking out front.

    Major agenda item will , of course, be ACC levies, and possible responses to them. It'd be nice to see a few more than the half dozen stalwarts there. But I'm not holding my breath.

    If there is a good attendance, the Chairman will be enforcing rather more of a formal meeting process than usual, just to stop things getting out of hands.

    A few ground rules for said meeting may as well be played through now:

    4. What IS required is reasons WHY we shouldn't pay what ACC *claim* we cost. Factual. Specific. So if you know something, or you are good at crunching statistics, that might be useful.

    .
    I cant think off one reason why we shouldn't

    apart from hey this is my toy and its my right to ride .... and crash

    the only plausible one I can think of is that it reduces congestion

    Stephen
    "Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."

  15. #15
    Join Date
    1st May 2008 - 19:40
    Bike
    2008 Suzuki V-Strom DL1000
    Location
    Tauranga
    Posts
    11
    Can't make the meeting, but assuming we can't make the Government change its mind on he principal, we might be able to influence when the increase applies. 600cc seems pretty random. maybe it would be fairer if based on power to weight, or 600 cc raised to say 900cc

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •