ACC levy protest action

[SARGE]

I shall get my citizenship one day. But I shall always be English.
-Indy

ive already got all the passports i need ..

[Indiana_Jones]

ive already got all the passports i need ..

Same lol, can you hold dual US and NZ ones?

-Indy

[SARGE]

Same lol, can you hold dual US and NZ ones?

-Indy

no.. you cannot swear loyalty to another flag willingly and keep your US Citizenship ...

[Indiana_Jones]

no.. you cannot swear loyalty to another flag willingly and keep your US Citizenship ...

Yea, I guess it's easier to get one from a country we own....

Still swearing to the crown.

-Indy

[Bend-it]

ANYWAY... I'm keen on the upside down rego thing, and one BIG protest ride, with tshirts etc...

And lots of emailing, contacting MPs etc... other under the radar stuff

[rok-the-boat]

ACC fee should cover the person not the vehicle. It is us they pay for when we get hurt. Therefore, you should just pay once. I think there is an insurance law somewhere that says you can't have more than one insurance on a vehicle... not sure though.

[Conquiztador]

I won't ride for this.

I hate the increases as much as the next biker. And I have more than one bike + a car (or two...).

But you have all missed what is going on. Yes, Labour made us all beneficiaries. They are by no means perfect. So you all went and voted for change... Well it is coming. The country is now being run like a business. And it is a business in financial crisis. Billions in deficit, and going deeper.

So, like with any business, there is only two ways to fix it:
1. Increase income.
2. Cut costs.

And that is what this is about. There is a bunch of guys/gals that have been told: "Cut the costs and find some more money. Don't make it to obvious, but do what it takes."

So they are looking at all and every spending: Education (Closing of schools, end of funding for courses), Hospitals, Police (you remember the selling of cars and stations?)ACC, even subsidies to the MP's (rent subsidies, overseas flights). And there are cuts. Or if not possible, then increases in fees.

So get used to it. This is just the beginning. In my chrystal ball I can see:
- 20 hour free ECE being cut or reduced.
- WINZ subsidies for After School care/ holiday programmes reduced or cut
- More education subsidies cut
- Family tax credit cut
- Simplyfying IRD and cutting administration
- Increase of road tax, petrol tax, all sort of "luxury" tax.
Etc.

No. I do not like it. Not a bit. But what is the option? To have a country go bankrupt like a 3'rd world country...

So sadly there is nothing we can do. The decisions are already made.

[Bend-it]

So sadly there is nothing we can do. The decisions are already made.

Then this is obviously not the thread for you eh?

[Indiana_Jones]

So sadly there is nothing we can do. The decisions are already made.

Even pulled your pants down and lubed your arsehole for the rapist, you're a thoughtful person....

-Indy

[Conquiztador]

Even pulled your pants down and lubed your arsehole for the rapist, you're a thoughtful person....

-Indy

Take a dose of reality. If you want ACC then someone will have to pay for it. Costs are going up and so must income.

$500 additional a year is $1.50/day. By this time next year you will have had an increase in income of that or more. Or just spend less. Life is about choices.

[SARGE]

Take a dose of reality. If you want ACC then someone will have to pay for it. Costs are going up and so must income.

$500 additional a year is $1.50/day. By this time next year you will have had an increase in income of that or more. Or just spend less. Life is about choices.

but but but .. i dont WANT ACC.. can i opt out?

[Bend-it]

My beef (tee hee hee) is with paying ACC three times for my 2 bikes and a car when I can only operate one vehicle at a time, so only run one risk as a time, not all three... it's ridiculous...

That $500 increase becomes over $1,000 increase now... $3 per day.

If they're going down the track of charging riskier activities, then it needs to include far more than just motorcycles. And remove the tie-in with a person's wage... Does earning more make you a higher ACC risk?? I don't think so...

Since ACC is basically insurance, they should evaluate people like insurance companies do and assign individual risk profiles and premiums.

[Conquiztador]

My beef (tee hee hee) is with paying ACC three times for my 2 bikes and a car when I can only operate one vehicle at a time, so only run one risk as a time, not all three... it's ridiculous...

That $500 increase becomes over $1,000 increase now... $3 per day.

If they're going down the track of charging riskier activities, then it needs to include far more than just motorcycles. And remove the tie-in with a person's wage... Does earning more make you a higher ACC risk?? I don't think so...

Since ACC is basically insurance, they should evaluate people like insurance companies do and assign individual risk profiles and premiums.

If I own 3 houses I will pay rates for all 3. Does not matter that I can only live in one at the time.

[Bend-it]

No, but rates is for services... not insurance...

ACC is basically health insurance for accidents, which I can only have on 1 vehicle at a time. If talking about fire and theft insurance... sure, I'd have them on all 3 vehicles, which I do... but that's not what ACC is, is it?

[Conquiztador]

No, but rates is for services... not insurance...

ACC is basically health insurance for accidents, which I can only have on 1 vehicle at a time. If talking about fire and theft insurance... sure, I'd have them on all 3 vehicles, which I do... but that's not what ACC is, is it?

Correct.

I can also rent out the two houses I am not living in. Therefore using the services that I would not use while not living in them.

And I can allow my son and g/f to use my car and second bike at same time I use one bike my self.