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    The new scheme is still a bargain, I hope you realise...

    Has anyone else considered that going from $1 to $2 (or $3) a day to own a motorcycle is still cheaper than catching a bus or parking a car?

    I've reckon Including maintenance, tyres, insurance, rego and fuel, my 20km commute each way still only costs four dollars.

    The train costs $5.70 and runs stupid hours, and it a ten minute drive from home, adding the cost of my time.

    A small 1300cc car costs as much as a bike to run (high insurance cancels rego), but city parking is offensive at best.


    The new levy still leaves me better off on the 400cc bike than the bus; I just have to save/budget accordingly to pay the lump sum.

    Of course for those who don't commute, this is still a crock of shit.

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    Yes, I've already posted the same thing twice, saying that less than $2/day is better'n going on the bus.
    So yes, I do realise this.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    And I do 3000kms per year recreational so thats only 25cents per km which is more than the petrol to run my 60hp bonneville 865cc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by motorbyclist View Post
    Has anyone else considered that going from $1 to $2 (or $3) a day to own a motorcycle is still cheaper than catching a bus or parking a car?

    I've reckon Including maintenance, tyres, insurance, rego and fuel, my 20km commute each way still only costs four dollars.

    The train costs $5.70 and runs stupid hours, and it a ten minute drive from home, adding the cost of my time.

    A small 1300cc car costs as much as a bike to run (high insurance cancels rego), but city parking is offensive at best.


    The new levy still leaves me better off on the 400cc bike than the bus; I just have to save/budget accordingly to pay the lump sum.

    Of course for those who don't commute, this is still a crock of shit.
    And there you have it. My only toy/pastime of choice is under attack, because it some apparent shortfall. And I didn't make it that way
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    Quote Originally Posted by motorbyclist View Post
    Has anyone else considered that going from $1 to $2 (or $3) a day to own a motorcycle is still cheaper than catching a bus or parking a car?

    I've reckon Including maintenance, tyres, insurance, rego and fuel, my 20km commute each way still only costs four dollars.

    The train costs $5.70 and runs stupid hours, and it a ten minute drive from home, adding the cost of my time.

    A small 1300cc car costs as much as a bike to run (high insurance cancels rego), but city parking is offensive at best.


    The new levy still leaves me better off on the 400cc bike than the bus; I just have to save/budget accordingly to pay the lump sum.

    Of course for those who don't commute, this is still a crock of shit.
    This calculation is correct IF you use your bike everyday. If not, the 'cost per km' increases significantly.

    Myself and many others ride for pleasure not for daily transport. If I ride my bike for one day 2 out of 3 weekends it costs $30 per day + fuel, insurance etc etc.

    A fairer levy would be for motorbike owners to purchase ACC miles (much like the Road User Charges).

    The more you ride, the more you pay. SIMPLE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by motorbyclist View Post
    Has anyone else considered that going from $1 to $2 (or $3) a day to own a motorcycle is still cheaper than catching a bus or parking a car?
    So the ACC (mis)management is then justified for doing so just because they can and it is still cheaper than buses?

    You're viewing it wrong, mate.

    It's the buses and trains that are too expensive!
    You don't drag the bottom up to meet the top. The government should think of ways to push the transport (buses/trains) down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vifferman View Post
    Yes, I've already posted the same thing twice...
    So you're repeating yourself now as well! I get that too...buggrit
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    Ahem, it's approximately $2 MORE every day for a 601+ ccm bike.

    Don't forget that there's maintenance, petrol and insurance to pay as well... not to mention speeding and parking tickets
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    Quote Originally Posted by motorbyclist View Post
    Has anyone else considered that going from $1 to $2 (or $3) a day to own a motorcycle is still cheaper than catching a bus or parking a car?

    I've reckon Including maintenance, tyres, insurance, rego and fuel, my 20km commute each way still only costs four dollars.

    The train costs $5.70 and runs stupid hours, and it a ten minute drive from home, adding the cost of my time.

    A small 1300cc car costs as much as a bike to run (high insurance cancels rego), but city parking is offensive at best.


    The new levy still leaves me better off on the 400cc bike than the bus; I just have to save/budget accordingly to pay the lump sum.

    Of course for those who don't commute, this is still a crock of shit.

    It's not the money!!!!!:slap:

    It's the fact that we are being, again, by using spurious figures to insinuate that we are reckless burdens on society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhubarb View Post
    A fairer levy would be for motorbike owners to purchase ACC miles (much like the Road User Charges).

    The more you ride, the more you pay. SIMPLE!
    That would be brilliant except then I'm commuting on overpriced road charges because you munters go out on a weekend wheelieing your gsxr thous into oncoming traffic and other such activities, whereas half the accidents I have are because some fuckwit cager didn't look

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    And those that ellect not to rego thier bike/s are banking on maybe getting pinged only the once, where as its more likely to a repeat performance. imagine if you will (we all know the cops are awear of rides etc) a rego and warrant block on the Coro Loop? that sort of thing may become more regular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    And those that ellect not to rego thier bike/s are banking on maybe getting pinged only the once, where as its more likely to a repeat performance. imagine if you will (we all know the cops are awear of rides etc) a rego and warrant block on the Coro Loop? that sort of thing may become more regular.
    The uncollected shortfall will be levered over the existing payers at their earliest convenience.

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    To be honest, I do think it's a crock of shit - but as I've posted elsewhere, the problem is ACC bills us bikers reguardless of how the accident occured, so as far as ACC is concerned, cagers should NOT be paying for the bill they create when they hit a bike, which is patently ridiculous

    all i'm saying is for me, this isn't the end of the world - my commute offsets my weekend thrash

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    And those that ellect not to rego thier bike/s are banking on maybe getting pinged only the once, where as its more likely to a repeat performance.
    And if the government also make it no rego - then no ACC cover... they would also be running the risk of getting a $80,000. hospital bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motorbyclist View Post
    Has anyone else considered that going from $1 to $2 (or $3) a day to own a motorcycle is still cheaper than catching a bus or parking a car?

    I've reckon Including maintenance, tyres, insurance, rego and fuel, my 20km commute each way still only costs four dollars.

    The train costs $5.70 and runs stupid hours, and it a ten minute drive from home, adding the cost of my time.

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    You have forgotton to factor in one small thing. You actually have to buy a bike too. (You need to spend $5k or so so you can save that couple of dollars a day). Don't worry though. I used the same flawed logic when I first convinced Mrs Oakie that ity would make good sense to buy a bike.
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