ACC levy and the bike market- what's going to happen?

**metalslug** · 16th October 2009, 14:54

Just want to know people's thoughts about the possible change in the values of bikes if this levy really take into effect.

For me- As I will be getting my full soon to move on to a big bike, my options are now limited to 600 and under. The ninja 636 I was really keen on buying is not an option anymore. I doubt the extra 36cc will bring me the pleasure worth 230 odd dollars a year... and the litre bikes are purely out of the league, especially if you take into consideration of insurance costs (easily 600+) and other running costs like tyres...etc

As for 250s- it might become more popular? since new bikers will still need them and their running costs are cheaper then bigger bikes-might still be a reasonable choice for commuting with some weekend riding.

Scooters will probably be the one suffering the most- especially <50cc mopeds, since people ride them to save on petrol instead of joy riding. But at the new rego price you might as well just drive...

This means bikes are no more than a rich men's toy...such a shame.....

**steve_t** · 16th October 2009, 15:50

I wonder if the price of an Aprilia RS125 is going to skyrocket... more

**Coldrider** · 16th October 2009, 19:56

Originally Posted by metalslug

Just want to know people's thoughts about the possible change in the values of bikes if this levy really take into effect.

For me- As I will be getting my full soon to move on to a big bike, my options are now limited to 600 and under. The ninja 636 I was really keen on buying is not an option anymore. I doubt the extra 36cc will bring me the pleasure worth 230 odd dollars a year... and the litre bikes are purely out of the league, especially if you take into consideration of insurance costs (easily 600+) and other running costs like tyres...etc

As for 250s- it might become more popular? since new bikers will still need them and their running costs are cheaper then bigger bikes-might still be a reasonable choice for commuting with some weekend riding.

Scooters will probably be the one suffering the most- especially <50cc mopeds, since people ride them to save on petrol instead of joy riding. But at the new rego price you might as well just drive...

This means bikes are no more than a rich men's toy...such a shame.....

Up to 600cc is good value for the adrenalin you can inject yourself, especially if you only need to rego it for six months, enjoy.

**AllanB** · 16th October 2009, 20:03

My 2c worth.
Actually fuck it - if the Government can charge more then I am raising it too.

My 5c worth

If you are really into your bikes you'll purchase what you desire regardless of a few hundred extra on rego.

That's until the insurance companies think - "hey we could have a piece of this 600cc plus pay rise" and charge heaps more ....

**dino3310** · 16th October 2009, 20:09

if it happens i'l be down sizing, only just affording the odd weekend ride as it is never mind paying extra for the reg

**98tls** · 16th October 2009, 20:21

I really dont get this at all,chances are this price hike will happen but to a modified extent re rego but even in its current proposed form if the difference between owning the bike you want or none at all/a different one is a few hundred $ a year then dont bother.If its that tough put the rego on hold for 6 months etc.

**scumdog** · 16th October 2009, 20:31

Originally Posted by AllanB

My 2c worth.
Actually fuck it - if the Government can charge more then I am raising it too.

My 5c worth

If you are really into your bikes you'll purchase what you desire regardless of a few hundred extra on rego.

That's until the insurance companies think - "hey we could have a piece of this 600cc plus pay rise" and charge heaps more ....

Me?

I'm gunna scrape the '1' off the 1450cc on my Superglide, that'll fool 'em and I'll get a cheaper reg.

And all the rubes will say, 'Meh. it don't go TOO bad for a 450'

**dipshit** · 16th October 2009, 21:05

Originally Posted by 98tls

I really dont get this at all,chances are this price hike will happen but to a modified extent re rego but even in its current proposed form if the difference between owning the bike you want or none at all/a different one is a few hundred $ a year then dont bother.

I couldn't give a shit that much myself either. A few extra hundred dollars a year isn't much compared to the cost of tyres and petrol and servicing over a year anyhow.

I think the industry is more worried about the loss of customers when all the people who have bikes for cheap commuting and transport decide it isn't worth it anymore and look at other options.

**dogsnbikes** · 16th October 2009, 21:10

Originally Posted by metalslug

Just want to know people's thoughts about the possible change in the values of bikes if this levy really take into effect.

For me- As I will be getting my full soon to move on to a big bike, my options are now limited to 600 and under. The ninja 636 I was really keen on buying is not an option anymore. I doubt the extra 36cc will bring me the pleasure worth 230 odd dollars a year... and the litre bikes are purely out of the league, especially if you take into consideration of insurance costs (easily 600+) and other running costs like tyres...etc

As for 250s- it might become more popular? since new bikers will still need them and their running costs are cheaper then bigger bikes-might still be a reasonable choice for commuting with some weekend riding.

Scooters will probably be the one suffering the most- especially <50cc mopeds, since people ride them to save on petrol instead of joy riding. But at the new rego price you might as well just drive...

This means bikes are no more than a rich men's toy...such a shame.....

really depends on what you really want to do with your riding..........dont compare the cost of riding...as the cost of not being able to ride is far more painfull....I have 6 bikes but medically I can't ride til june next year now thats painfull

when you have a bike you enjoy and feel as one on the bike the cost wont matter,
I wouldnt stop riding or downgrade as my bikes are worth more to me than a couple of $100 on a rego

**rosie631** · 16th October 2009, 21:23

Kind of agree here. I think the increase sucks and i will certainly be joining in the protests against it. But when it comes down to it, it ain't gonna stop me riding. I was under the impression, like many others on here, that if you had no Rego but were still warranted you would be covered by insurance. Rang one insurance company today and they said would be covered for fire and theft but would be declined for accident because without rego you are on the road illegally. This would apply if you had rego on hold over winter but decided to go for a spin one weekend and happened to have an accident. Since winter weather is prob when you are more likely to come off and I'm not prepared to give up riding for three months of the year, I'm just gonna have to bite the bullet and pay it, however much it gos up.

**Pedrostt500** · 16th October 2009, 22:13

The way I see it, the worst case senario, is we get hammered harder than exspected, and most riders opt out all together, selling up their bikes, thus no need for some of the bike shops as new models would not be selling, a glut of bikes on the market, pushing down the second hand bike prices, possibly to scrap value, ACC leaveys increasing more due to less bike registrations, to cover the costs of exsisting claims.
Bike shops closing or laying off staff due to a non exsistant market, most city bike shops would have to hike their prices on off road equipment to cover their over heads to stay in busness, like wise with bike accessory supplyers.

The middle ground, bikes are rated on a weigt to power ratio, on the manufacturers specifications, the higher the weight to power ratio the higher the ACC leavey component of the REG fee. a check for after market engine performance mods may become part of the WOF check.
Bike shops sell more cruisers and comuter bikes, possible drop in sales of high performance bikes, though bikers may change what they ride, rather than opt out altogether.

best case, The government find hundreds of billions of dollars hidden behind the couch, "oh how did that get there", and we never have to pay a cent to ACC again.

**scissorhands** · 17th October 2009, 14:25

50cc little wheel CVT's will die a horrible death, only kept alive by car only licensed commuters.

100-125cc will gain in value, and 125cc performance kits and smaller rear spockets will breed like fungus.

600cc plus will devalue

125-600cc will probably stay the same

People will sell off some of their bikes and others will become bikeless.

Personal car, train and bus use will increase.

**Katman** · 17th October 2009, 14:28

Originally Posted by metalslug

This means bikes are no more than a rich men's toy...such a shame.....

The fact that so many motorcyclists have looked upon motorcycles as 'toys' is what has brought us to the mess that we find ourselves in today.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 17th October 2009, 14:35

Originally Posted by dipshit

I couldn't give a shit that much myself either. A few extra hundred dollars a year isn't much compared to the cost of tyres and petrol and servicing over a year anyhow

Good on yah... Lucky for some that can aford $900 a year just reregister the bike...

All these extra price hikes on every thing is just going to make the recesion worse...

We are not out the recession yet... we are just in the eye of the storm, the worst is yet to come...