BIKEOI Wellington

[Skyryder]

No and no. Neither petition nor pissy with the ACC. This is a protest against a Government plan to price motorcycling off the road with secondary goal of removing the discriminatory aspect of the separate levy for motorcycles. ( I hope - I may be about to be slapped)

The CEO of ACC publicly supports Smith's proposals. ACC is a fair target. The only thing I would consider is those that are entering or leaving the building.

Skyryder

[StoneY]

Ulysses Club

Ok, spoke with thier President Peter just now

Ulysses club (as a club) will not be partaking in this event, they see it as counter productive and will (in Peters opinion) annoy the public and get them offside...
They see smaller regional and local rides to MP's as the answer, not anything on the scale we are planning

I have asked him to post his viewpoint on the forum for us, so hopefully he will

He did make a commitment to ensure his members get the news and may attend Thursday's meeting

I have also e-mailed the HOG club

Awaiting thier reply

[James Deuce]

How about asking him to make sure that his members are togged up properly if they are going to appear riding on Television news items?

[325rocket]

Ulysses Club

Ok, spoke with thier President Peter just now

Ulysses club (as a club) will not be partaking in this event, they see it as counter productive and will (in Peters opinion) annoy the public and get them offside...

well thats a bit of a let down.

[yungatart]

Ulysses Club

Ok, spoke with thier President Peter just now

Ulysses club (as a club) will not be partaking in this event, they see it as counter productive and will (in Peters opinion) annoy the public and get them offside...
They see smaller regional and local rides to MP's as the answer, not anything on the scale we are planning

I have asked him to post his viewpoint on the forum for us, so hopefully he will

He did make a commitment to ensure his members get the news and may attend Thursday's meeting

I have also e-mailed the HOG club

Awaiting thier reply

We, too, have been in discussions with Ulysses here. Ulysses does not encourage political activism as a group, but they are happy for their members to be a part of anything we organise and will be passing on our plans to their members.
They will still be involved just not under their Ulysses umbrella (at least, that is what I understand here in HB)

[Griffin]

Ulysses as a club may not support it... and that is probably a fair call on their part if they are keen to keep their name clean. That however does not stop Ulysses members exercising their own right to join in a large protest action. They would just have to do it without waving the Ulysses name or logos about the place.

[nothingflash]

Ulysses as a club may not support it... and that is probably a fair call on their part if they are keen to keep their name clean. That however does not stop Ulysses members exercising their own right to join in a large protest action. They would just have to do it without waving the Ulysses name or logos about the place.

I'm not sure it is a question of keeping their name clean - as I understand it "our" intention is to be on best behaviour during any protest rides etc so perhaps they have the wrong end of the stick?

[Griffin]

"Our" intention is... thats correct, but there are always the odd twats who play up on such gatherings... besides, even without anyone playing up... something of this size and nature (lots of motorbikes) will ruffle some peoples feathers no matter how well we behave. I mean - surely lots of suited up, helmet wearing, motorbike riders must be bad. Maybe they are all a gang. The image scares some people. Just the way it is - cant please everyone.

It would be nice to be able to rid the country of any negative perceptions about bike riders but I dont know that it is possible. Hell... even when we do charity rides we get negative press.

[nothingflash]

It would be nice to be able to rid the country of any negative perceptions about bike riders but I dont know that it is possible. Hell... even when we do charity rides we get negative press.

Yeah fair enough I guess

[wingrider]

Hi All,
Have contacted members of the Goldwing Riders Club and passed on details.
As a club we do not intend to be involved but individual members are wanting to come onboard. They are actively browsing this site for events happening in their area and also in respect of the National Event.

Phil from the Bike Clinic Kapiti is also onboard and will try to accompany us with the ute offering a secure breakdown service for us.
He has already plastered posters on the doors and counter and has used his data base of customers to inform them of whats happening.

I have also been approached by members of the public today saying they feel we have been unjustly targeted and provided we behave ourselves on any protest ride will support us by signing petitions and making submissions.

I urge all of us to be on our best behaviour at this time with our riding habits and when talking to the public. Not everyone sees us as the bad guys.

[Bend-it]

To be expected, really... "established" bike clubs are usually abit afraid to be political... which is why KB is awesome!! 'coz we have no lincense for anyone to revoke... we're just a bunch of morons talking crap!! :

Let's do this!!

[maxf]

So - don't blast me here, it's 1am! - when is the likely date? 14-15Nov?

I'm very tempted to try to get across the ditch (in Chch) but i can guess the ferries will be all but accomodating if they can help it...!

(PS - Kapiti guys offering accommodation etc - great to see the long distance commuters getting out, used to really enjoy the wind-down of a ride home when we were in Pukerua Bay!)

[Ms Piggy]

I have also e-mailed the HOG club

Awaiting thier reply

I emailed WIMA Wellington via their website but have had no reply to date.

[StoneY]

I'm not sure it is a question of keeping their name clean - as I understand it "our" intention is to be on best behaviour during any protest rides etc so perhaps they have the wrong end of the stick?

No Peter made a good case for not coming as a CLUB.

Basically, my interpretation was, the CLUB wont be involved officially, but he is letting members know so they can choose as individuals

He may even come on Thursday
His feeling is when a number of riders who do not all know each other is a recipe for disaster

He was adamant idiots will misbehave, race, act out, and add to the bad press we already have

He mentioned how the Truckies pissed off everyone in Wellington (wasnt how I recall it and I too was there) and he doesnt agree with ANY form of traffic disruption in the name of our cause as it will get people offside with us

I hope I have clearly passed on his view, it not about "them (Ulysses) and Us, it that they dont want the Ulysses name involved with what they feel may cause bad feelings with Joe Public

I explained in DETAIL how we have been banging on about behavior, Police assistance etc, but could not convince him our members and attendee's will behave

HOG club replied, "be there with bells on!"

[wingrider]

Just my opinion.

Members of the Goldwing Riders Club have become active in involving themselves in local events as individuals. Our emails have been running hot.

Should anyone ask what group we belong to we will gladly tell them

No one has targeted any group, they have targeted the individual.
we have all been painted with the same label.

An undesirable minority segment in society that if targeted will obtain general public support in the raising of their levies.

Well Guess what. The majority do not see us as the minority or undesirable.

We have all combined to stand united and give support to all those who do not belong to any group ( moped and scooter riders as well) to protest at this action.

The spin doctors who suggested this form of attack are going to get one hell of a wake up call.